Monday 7 July 2014

Hill Lists – Cymru / Wales – 200m Twmpau updates – Cadair Idris



The first list to the Welsh 200m P30 hills was published on Geoff Crowder’s website v-g.me in 2000; this list preceded the list of TuMPs by nine years, the list proved a very useful resource for the TuMP compilation for this category of hill.

The Welsh 200m P30 list documents all hills in Wales that are at or above 200m in height and are below 300m in height, to qualify for the main list each hill requires a minimum of 30m of prominence.


The hills listed below are updates to the Welsh 200m P30 list originally published on Geoff Crowder's website.  To see the original list click {here}


The original published list had a Sub-List which was entitled ‘Hills to Survey’.  This list consisted of all hills in Wales in the stipulated height band that have a minimum of 20m of prominence, but do not meet the minimum 30m of prominence to enter the main list, according to Ordnance Survey map spot heights and contours.  Nowadays the standard Sub-List takes in all hills that have a minimum of 20m of prominence.  However, the Hills to Survey Sub-List discounted hills whose map spot heights gave a drop value of less than 30m, but more than 20m.  By doing so, the only hills that were Sub-Listed were those that map values dictated stood a chance of entering the main list, for example; if a hill had a summit spot height of 250m and a bwlch spot height of 221m, it was not listed in the Hills to Survey Sub-List as with 29m of drop I thought it did not stand a chance of main list qualification.
 
When compiling the Sub-List I was measuring many hills for P30 status using a basic levelling technique, please click {here} for more information concerning this.  I now know that Ordnance Survey spot heights have a standard margin of uncertainty of + / - 3m associated with their accuracy.  Therefore many hills that were not listed in the original Sub-List may have sufficient drop to enter the main list.  Because of this the Sub-List has been altered to include all hills that have a minimum of 20m of drop but are not known to attain the minimum 30m of drop to enter the main list.

The hills listed below are those major amendments to the original Welsh 200m P30 list as it appears on Geoff’s website.  There are many hills that have been promoted from the Hills to Survey Sub-List to the main list, whilst there are many additions to the Sub-List now that it has been standardised to include all 20m minimum but below 30m drop hills.

When the 200m P30 list was first published it was the first to this category of hills and in some way it and its other 100m height band lists paved the way for Clem’s data that later appeared on the RHB file database and then for the TuMPs listing by Mark Jackson.

As well as the first P30 list to this height band the list is now the first to include a comprehensive Sub-List.

TuMP baggers beware; as the main list also includes P30’s not listed by Mark Jackson, so if you want to visit all P30’s you’ll have to include some non TuMPs to do so.

The list will be updated on a weekly basis and will be done so through each Group category, starting from the north and working south.  The thirteenth Group is Cadair Idris.



Cadair Idris
 
North of Aber Dysynni at SH 560 030 and the Afon Dysynni to Llyn Mwyngil (Tal y Llyn Lake) at SH 710 094, continuing north from SH 720 103 following the Afon Faw, Afon Fawnog and Nant yr Allt-oen to bwlch at SH 756 139, continuing west and then south of the Afon Clywedog to SH 748 188, continuing south of the Afon Wnion to SH 711 190 and the Afon Mawddach to Bae Abermaw (Barmouth Bay) and the sea at SH 603 147.  Bordering with the Rhinogydd and Arennig to the north, Aran and Bryniau Dyfi to the east, Tarennydd to the east and south and the sea to the west.



Twmpau - 200m updates

Craig y Castell    298m    SH 694 172

A hill that has always been a prime candidate for promotion from the Sub-List and as the Ordnance Survey enlarged Geograph map has a summit spot height of 298m and a bwlch spot height of 264m, this hill has 34m of drop and joins the ranks of P30’s.


Craigymerwydd    296m    SH 644 134

Another prime candidate for promotion and with the bwlch height estimated as c 263m from contouring between c 260m – c 270m, it gives this hill c 33m of drop.


Tลตr Glas    228m    SH 672 164

The hill is situated in a lovely area of the Cadair Idris range and is positioned just to the north of Llyn Wylfa.  It has been promoted from the Sub-List as the Ordnance Survey enlarged Geograph map gives it a summit spot height of 228m and the bwlch height has been estimated as c 196m, giving this hill c 32m of drop.  The enlarged Geograph map also spots another height in the vicinity of the summit as 227m at SH 673 165.


Gribin    211m    SH 675 168

This hill is an automatic entry to the list of Welsh 200m P30 hills and was mistakenly listed in the Sub-List when first published.  The hill now has a summit spot height of 211m thanks to the Ordnance Survey enlarged Geograph map.  The bwlch contouring is between c 170m – c 180m, and has been estimated as c 172m, giving this hill c 39m of drop.



Sub-Twmpau - 200m updates

Pt. 297m    297m    SH 694 169

The Pt. notation has been used for the name of this hill as no appropriate name is known by the blog author.  This hill has a 297m summit and a 271m bwlch spot height on the Ordnance Survey enlarged Geograph map, giving this hill 26m of drop.  The hill has a twin summit at SH 693 171 that also qualifies for Sub status.


Pt. 297m    297m    SH 693 171

The Pt. notation has been used for the name of this hill as no appropriate name is known by the blog author.  This hill has a 297m summit and a 272m bwlch spot height on the Ordnance Survey enlarged Geograph map, giving this hill 25m of drop.  The hill has a twin summit at SH 694 169 that also qualifies for Sub status.


Dolgledr    256m    SH 690 175

The summit spot height is taken from the Ordnance Survey enlarged Geograph map, whilst the bwlch height is estimated as c 234m at SH 689 174 from contouring between c 230m – c 240m, giving this hill c 22m of drop.


Pt. 274m    274m    SH 654 140

As no appropriate name is known for the hill by the blog author the Pt. notation is being used.  The summit has a 274m spot height on the Ordnance Survey enlarged Geograph map and the bwlch contouring is between c 250m – c 260m.  There is a 254m spot height on the narrow road on the enlarged Geograph map at SH 659 139, but the bwlch contouring suggests that the critical bwlch may be lower than this and placed at SH 658 140.  However, the 254m spot height and position is being taken for the drop value, which gives this hill 20m of prominence.



Next update due on the 14th July 2014

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