Sunday 22 July 2018

Guest Contributor – Ronnie Bowron



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About the Author; Ronnie Bowron



Ronnie Bowron developed a passion for the mountains through Scouting where as a Cub Scout over the Easter weekend in 1976 he visited the Lake District for the first time.  Since then he has walked extensively around the UK, with various trips to the Alps and Himalaya.

Ten years ago he decided to have greater objectives to walking the fells and subsequently completed the Wainwrights and then the Outlying Fells, Birketts, Nuttalls and Simms.  Having completed a round of English and Welsh mountains he then refocused on the Lake District completing the Synges.

His current projects revolve around documenting all recognised hills/ mountains from any bagging list in each of the UK’s 15 National Parks.  He calls these “The Definitive Lists©” of the National Parks of the United Kingdom.  In the last 12 months he has completed rounds of all 1,020 summits in the Lake District National Park and all 187 summits within the Yorkshire Dales National Park.  His attention then turned to documenting all English/ Welsh Mountains over 2,000 feet / 600 metres on the same basis as his Definitive Lists, hence the research on the Corbett Twenty Fives. 




The Corbett Twenty Fives


Most people will be familiar with the Munro List of 283 Scottish Mountains over 3,000 feet first published in 1891 by Sir Hugh Munro and a round was first completed by the Rev.  Archibald Eneas Robertson on 28th September 1901.

The fourth Munroist was J. Rooke Corbett who was a district valuer based in Bristol.  He completed the Munros and Munro Tops in 1930 and in doing so became only the second person to complete this feat.

In addition to his time in the mountains, Corbett compiled a list of 219 Scottish mountains between 2,500 feet and 3,000 feet in height which are now known as the Corbetts.  What is less well known is that he also published an English and Welsh list of mountains over 2,500 feet in height known as the Twenty Fives.  This is the first known list of English & Welsh summits.

Corbett was a member of the Rucksack Club which was formed in 1902 and it is still going strong to this day.  The Rucksack Club publishes an Annual Journal and the 1911 edition included a five page article entitled “Twenty-Fives”.  This article listed 130 mountains in England and Wales over 2,500 feet in height.

To the modern day peak bagger this first list of English and Welsh mountains has been lost in the depths of history but like its more famous Scottish cousin – The Munros – it deserves its recognised place in history.

The ethos of an early twentieth century peak bagger was very similar to the modern day peak bagger and it is worth repeating Corbett’s introductory remarks to the 1911 article: -

“During the last few years there has arisen among some of the members of the Rucksack Club a new craze or hobby, which may be looked upon as a special form of the old passion for ‘peak-bagging’ which has long been known to mountaineers.  This hobby consists in visiting as many as possible of the English and Welsh summits which are more than 2,500 feet above sea level.  The twenty-fiver is distinguished from the ordinary peak-bagger by the thoroughness of his work”

Part of its lack of recognition is that the Corbett Twenty Fives has never been digitised and published on any hill bagging sites.  As part of a wider project to list all English and Welsh Mountains over 2,000 feet or 600 metres which have appeared on any bagging list I have taken the opportunity to digitise the Corbett Twenty Fives.


The Corbett Twenty Fives had four editions and it’s worth putting them into context:


1911 edition was largely based on the Bartholomew Half Inch Maps published 1897-1907 and identified the initial 131 summits.

1912 update added 7 new summits, with 5 in England including Pillar Rock and 2 in Wales.

1929 edition was a fully revised list based on the new ‘Popular’ edition of the One-Inch Ordnance map.

1933 update added 4 new summits in England and 6 in Wales.  This update was by E. (Ted) Moss who was to become famous in this own right with the first 2,000 foot lists for England and Wales which were published in 1939 and 1940 respectively.


The Bartholohew Half Inch map which was largely used for the 1911 compilation was very basic.  It relied on contours at 250 foot intervals and had no grid lines; therefore the Corbett Twenty Fives are listed by geographic area.  The use of such a basic map puts the list in to context, and it would not be until the ‘Popular’ One Inch Ordnance Map was published that fifty foot contours and grid lines were first used.  By way of comparison, below is the equivalent map of Snowdon-Yr Wyddfa.




An important point to note is that these maps pre dated Ordnance Survey trig points which only came into being in April 1936.  A number of the spot heights on these maps were not true summits but cairned points with excellent views to allow the Ordnance Surveyors to complete their work.  These random spot heights are largely still recorded on the 2018 editions of the OS 1:50,000 Landranger mapping.

As a result of the improved mapping and visiting many of the locations in the preceding years, the 1929 edition removed 15 non summits.  In the same way as we have deleted Nuttalls I treat these as Del Corbett 25s – in my view these are worthy of record as for 18 years they were regarded as summits to the early twentieth century peak bagger.

No further revisions were made to this list after the 1933 update; therefore the Corbett Twenty Fives became a static list with 158 summits (94 in England and 64 in Wales).  By 1939 hill listing had moved onto what is now generally regarded as the height of a mountain, which is 2,000 foot (609.6 metres) or 600 metres for an appropriate metric equivalent.

For the record the articles supporting the various editions of the lists suggests that a gentleman called Minor was the first to bag a full round of the Twenty Fives and other members of the Rucksack Club followed in his footsteps.  I have yet to trace a record of where or on what date this was completed.

There are often discussions within the hill bagging community as to what constitutes a summit or trig point bag.  Whilst I agree that at the end of the day it comes down to personal conscious, there is an interesting observation in the 1922 update on this subject which is worthy of mention.  This relates to Gallt-y-Gogof near to Capel Curig and I quote: -

“The Ordnance Surveyors put the height of the mountain at only 2,499 feet, but members who passed over this summit on the way to the Glyders were naturally reluctant to let it be excluded from the list for the sake of twelve miserable inches.  The argument that the mountain was in fact more than 2,500 feet above sea level at low tide was held to be unsatisfactory, because it’s always low tide at some point on the British coast and always high tide at some other point.  More weight, however, attached to the argument that any person more than two feet in height who ascended this peak was entitled to count it as a twenty-five on the ground that the greater part of his anatomy had attained the required altitude; but, in order to place matters beyond dispute, it was finally agreed that this peak might be counted as a twenty-five by any climber who, when standing on the top most summit, should leap at least one foot into the air”

All those marginal summits where hours of GPS data have been collected could now be potentially elevated into a list simply by jumping into the air!  Needless to say Gallt-y-Gogof did not make the final Corbett Twenty Five list.

Ronnie Bowron (July 2018)


My thanks go to Gordon Adshead of the Rucksack Club for allowing me to source original copies of the Journals, to Phil Newby for agreeing to add the Corbett Twenty Fives to the Haroldstreet website and to Myrddyn Phillips of Mapping Mountains in publishing this article.







The final Twenty Five list of 158 summits appears below presented in alphabetical order with the list of deleted summits following: 



Corbett Twenty Fives

Original Name
Grid Ref
Current Name
1
Allen Crags
NY 23670 08528
Allen Crags
2
Aran Bennllyn N Top
SH 86720 24269
Aran Benllyn
3
Aran Mawddwy
SH 86269 22383
Aran Fawddwy
4
Arenig Fawr S Top
SH 82704 36949
Arenig Fawr
5
Arenig Fawr Far South Top
SH 82684 36655
Arenig Fawr South Top
6
Bera Bach
SH 67206 67767
Bera Bach
7
Bera Mawr
SH 67482 68267
Bera Mawr
8
Black Crag
NY 16600 11662
Black Crag
9
Red Pike S Top
NY 16564 10146
Black Crag
10
Saddleback
NY 32345 27709
Blencathra-Hallsfell Top
11
Bowfell
NY 24455 06452
Bowfell
12
Bowfell Centre Top
NY 24450 06700
Bowfell Centre Top
13
Bowfell N Top
NY 24455 07002
Bowfell North Top
14
Brim Fell
SD 27075 98558
Brim Fell
15
Broad Crag
NY 21857 07556
Broad Crag
16
Buckbarrow Crag
SD 27110 98080
Buckbarrow Crag
17
Cader Berwyn S Top
SJ 07163 32351
Cadair Berwyn
18
Cader Berwyn N Top
SJ 07221 32715
Cadair Berwyn North Top
19
Cader Bronwen
SJ 07752 34661
Cadair Bronwen
20
Cader Idris
SH 71113 13035
Cadair Idris-Penygadair
21
Cairn Hill
NT 90370 19524
Cairn Hill
22
Carnedd Dafydd
SH 66283 63046
Carnedd Dafydd
23
Carnedd Llewellyn
SH 68361 64372
Carnedd Llewelyn
24
Carnedd y Filiast
SH 62038 62736
Carnedd y Filiast
25
Catstye Cam
NY 34811 15823
Catstye Cam
26
Black Ladders
SH 67500 63200
Cefn Ysgolion East Top
27
Black Ladders W Top
SH 67100 63000
Cefn Ysgolion West Top (Black Ladders)
28
Corn Du
SO 00718 21330
Corn Du
29
Crag Hill
NY 19273 20335
Crag Hill (Eel Crag)
30
Craig Berwyn N Top
SJ 07700 33500
Craig Berwyn (boundary)
31
Craig Berwyn S Top
SJ 07450 33300
Craig Berwyn South Top
32
Mynydd Pencoed
SH 71061 12127
Craig Cwm Amarch
33
Duwynt
SO 00551 20720
Craig Gwaun Taf (Duwynt)
34
Waun Rydd S Top
SO 06610 20160
Craig Pwllfa (Waun Rydd South Top)
35
Crib Goch
SH 62421 55155
Crib Goch
36
Crib y Ddisgl
SH 61079 55155
Crib y Ddysgl
37
Bryn Teg
SO 02389 21312
Cribyn
38
Crinkle Crags, South Top
NY 25004 04557
Crinkle Crags South Top (First Crinkle)
39
Crinkle Crags, Long Top
NY 24865 04873
Crinkle Crags-Long Top (Second Crinkle)
40
Cross Fell
NY 68718 34336
Cross Fell
41
Cyfrwy
SH 70389 13329
Cyfrwy
42
Dollywaggon Pike
NY 34626 13068
Dollywaggon Pike
43
Dove Crag
NY 37455 10436
Dove Crag
44
Dow Crag
SD 26253 97797
Dow Crag
45
Drum
SH 70843 69587
Drum
46
Drws Bach
SH 86299 21294
Drws Bach
47
Elidyr Fach
SH 60374 61335
Elidir Fach
48
Elidyr Fawr
SH 61171 61287
Elidir Fawr
49
Aran Bennllyn S Top
SH 86475 23384
Erw y Ddafad-ddu
50
Esk Pike
NY 23650 07505
Esk Pike
51
Fairfield
NY 35873 11757
Fairfield
52
Carmarthen Van
SN 82533 21793
Fan Brycheiniog-Trig Point
53
Foel Grach
SH 68878 65906
Foel Grach
54
Foel Fras
SH 69613 68121
Foel-fras
55
Foel Goch
SH 62858 61211
Foel-goch
56
Foel Goch S Top
SH 62793 60726
Foel-goch South Top
57
Garnedd Uchaf
SH 68698 66902
Garnedd Uchaf (Carnedd Gwenllian)
58
Gavel Pike
NY 37285 13419
Gavel Pike
59
Glaramara N Top
NY 24599 10457
Glaramara
60
Craig y Ffynon
SH 83674 19455
Glasgwm
61
Glyder Fach
SH 65643 58286
Glyder Fach
62
Glyder Fawr
SH 64243 57953
Glyder Fawr
63
Grassmoor
NY 17484 20352
Grasmoor
64
Great Carrs
NY 27078 00950
Great Carrs
65
Great Dodd
NY 34203 20530
Great Dodd
66
Unnamed top
NY 34060 20000
Great Dodd S Top
67
Great Dun Fell
NY 71016 32133
Great Dunn Fell
68
Great End
NY 22671 08386
Great End
69
Great Gable
NY 21100 10321
Great Gable
70
Great Rigg
NY 35592 10407
Great Rigg
71
Great Scoat Fell
NY 15459 11210
Great Scoat Fell
72
Green Gable
NY 21465 10717
Green Gable
73
Green Side
NY 35272 18751
Green Side (White Stones-Green Side)
74
Grey Friar
NY 26008 00361
Grey Friar
75
Grisedale Pike
NY 19840 22548
Grisedale Pike
76
Hart Crag
NY 36903 11207
Hart Crag
77
Harter Fell
NY 45969 09327
Harter Fell (Mardale)
78
Haycock
NY 14478 10717
Haycock
79
Helvellyn
NY 34245 15111
Helvellyn
80
Lower Man
NY 33744 15544
Helvellyn Lower Man
81
Nethermost Pike S Top
NY 34333 13666
High Crag (Grisedale)
82
High White Stones
NY 28088 09524
High Raise (High Raise (High White Stones)
83
High Raise
NY 44823 13453
High Raise (High Street)
84
High Stile
NY 17008 14818
High Stile (Grey Crag-High Stile)
85
High Street
NY 44076 11050
High Street
86
Sand Hill
NY 18567 22163
Hopegill Head
87
Ill Crags
NY 22319 07350
Ill Crag
88
Kidsty Pike
NY 44736 12580
Kidsty Pike
89
Kirk Fell W Top
NY 19494 10487
Kirk Fell
90
Kirk Fell E Top
NY 19915 10700
Kirk Fell East Top (Kirk Fell North Top)
91
Knock Fell
NY 72139 30238
Knock Fell
92
Knowe Crags
NY 31197 27029
Knowe Crags (Blease Fell)
93
Lingmell
NY 20933 08178
Lingmell
94
Little Dun Fell
NY 70447 33016
Little Dunn Fell
95
Llwydnor
SH 68945 69225
Llwytmor
96
Long Green
NY 20950 05700
Long Green Scafell
97
Glaramara S Top
NY 24586 10172
Looking Steads (Glaramara)
98
Dufton Fell
NY 77166 29080
Meldon Hill
99
Mickle Fell
NY80604 24548
Mickle Fell
100
Moel Hebog
SH 56482 46940
Moel Hebog
101
Arenig Fawr N Top
SH 82931 37281
Moel Llechwedd
102
Moel Siabod
SH 70526 54632
Moel Siabod
103
Moel Sych
SJ 06629 31858
Moel Sych
104
Moelwyn Mawr
SH 65822 44861
Moelwyn Mawr
105
Mynydd Moel
SH 72747 13678
Mynydd Moel
106
Mynedd Pencoed SW Top
SH 70512 11789
Mynydd Pencoed
107
Mynydd Perfedd
SH 62313 61888
Mynydd Perfedd
108
Nethermost Pike N Top
NY 34366 14218
Nethermost Pike
109
Pen Llithing yr Wrach
SH 71622 62290
Pen Llithrig y Wrach
110
Brecon Beacon
SO 01208 21583
Pen y Fan
111
Pen y Gader Fawr
SO 22944 28758
Pen y Gadair Fawr
112
Pen yr Helig-du
SH 69778 63045
Pen yr Helgi Du
113
Pen yr Olen Wen
SH 65595 61944
Pen yr Ole Wen
114
Aran Benllyn Far North Top
SH 86930 24702
Pen-aran
115
Pillar
NY 17125 12105
Pillar
116
Pillar E Top
NY 17844 11978
Pillar East Top
117
Pillar Rock
NY 17152 12375
Pillar Rock
118
Raise
NY 34281 17416
Raise
119
Ramsgill Head
NY 44332 12872
Rampsgill Head
120
Red Pike N Top
NY 16531 10607
Red Pike (Wasdale)
121
Red Screes
NY 39660 08757
Red Screes
122
Rough Crags E Top
NY 22063 06846
Rough Crags East Top
123
Rough Crags W Top
NY 22022 06903
Rough Crags West Top
124
Sail
NY 19817 20276
Sail
125
Scafell
NY 20680 06479
Scafell
126
Scafell Pikes
NY 21540 07217
Scafell Pike
127
Little Scoat Fell
NY 15999 11395
Scoat Fell
128
Shelter Crags
NY 24972 05348
Shelter Crags
129
Shelter Crags, N Top
NY 24923 05730
Shelter Crags North Top
130
Skiddaw
NY 26042 29082
Skiddaw
131
Little Man
NY 26675 27793
Skiddaw Little Man
132
Slight Side
NY 20990 05016
Slight Side
133
Y Wyddfa (Snowdon)
SH 60986 54376
Snowdon-Yr Wyddfa
134
St. Sunday Crag
NY 36917 13398
St Sunday Crag
135
Steeple
NY 15754 11675
Steeple
136
Stony Cove Pike
NY 41781 10007
Stony Cove Pike (Caudale Moor)
137
Striding Edge
NY 35061 14923
Striding Edge (High Spying How)
138
Stybarrow Dodd N Top
NY 34308 18912
Stybarrow Dodd
139
Stybarrow Dodd S Top
NY 34107 18678
Stybarrow Dodd South Top
140
Swirl How
NY 27280 00552
Swirl How
141
The Cheviot
NT 90906 20527
The Cheviot
142
Bellyside Crag
NT 91384 20770
The Cheviot North East Top 
143
The Knowe
NY 45865 08885
The Knowe (Harter Fell South Top)
144
Coniston Old Man
SD 27242 97818
The Old Man of Coniston (Coniston Old Man)
145
Thornthwaite Crag
NY 43149 10051
Thornthwaite Crag
146
Tryfan
SH 66405 59387
Tryfan
147
Wandope
NY 18819 19731
Wandope
148
Watson's Dodd
NY 33567 19563
Watson's Dodd
149
Waun Fach
SO 21551 29984
Waun Fach
150
Waun Rydd N Top
SO 06212 20645
Waun Rydd
151
Wetherlam
NY 28818 01113
Wetherlam
152
White Dodd
NY 33780 16666
White Side
153
East of Llyn Caseg-Ffaith
SH 67781 58216
Y Foel Goch
154
East of Llyn Caseg-Ffaith
SH 67212 58470
Y Foel Goch North-West Top
155
Y Garn
SH 63089 59569
Y Garn
156
Lliwedd
SH 62242 53336
Y Lliwedd
157
Yr Aryg
SH 68062 67364
Yr Aryg
158
Yr Elen
SH 67386 65115
Yr Elen





Deleted Corbett Twenty Fives




Original Name
Grid Ref
Current Name
1
Bellyside Crag
NT 90561 21103
Bellyside Crag
2
Black Dub
NY 70180 34947
Black Dub
3
Browncove Crags
NY 33217 15683
Browncove Crags
4
Braich Du
SH 65806 62629
Carnedd Fach
5
Cross Fell pt. 2799
NY 69500 34700
Cross Fell pt. 2799
6
Cross Fell pt. 2893
NY 68976 34585
Cross Fell pt. 2893
7
Eel Crag
NY 19028 20685
Eel Crag (Birkett)
8
Esgair Felen
SH 63379 57853
Esgair Felen
9
Fallow Hill
NY 70157 35438
Fallow Hill
10
Knock Fell pt. 2582
NY 73231 30132
Knock Fell pt 2532
11
Mickle Fell (second summit)
NY 80136 24182
Mickle Fell pt 2547
12
Steeple pt. 2746
NY 15790 11446
Middle Scoat Fell
13
Pen-y-Nantllyn
SO 22778 29073
Pen-y-Nantllyn
14
Skirwith Fell
NY 67937 35408
Skirwith Fell
15
The Cheviot pt. 2547
NT89890 20730
The Cheviot pt. 2547


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