Tuesday, 3 June 2025

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Axe Edge

 

18.03.25 & 10.04.25  Mow Cop (SJ 858 575) and Old Man of Mow (SJ 858 575) 

The Old Man of Mow (SJ 858 575) and the trig point atop Mow Cop (SJ 858 575)

A day out with Mark with an intriguing investigation and a survey planned.  The first part of the day was spent in southern Manchester gathering information on a project that was debated when at John Kirk’s house last October.  Happy with our initial investigation the SatNav extricated us out of the confines of Manchester toward the quieter countryside and open fields of Cheshire as we headed toward its border with Staffordshire.  It was here where a pillar of rock and a trig point awaited.  However, before visiting Mow Cop we spent an hour in a pub with a late lunch and good conversation.

Mow Cop is one of those oddities in British hill listing as it has two distinct high points.  One is beside a trig point on a part of the hill that remains intact after extensive quarrying activities; this is listed as a Submarilyn by Alan Dawson.  Whilst the other is an impressive rock pillar, left in situ after those self-same quarrying activities, this is higher than the ground beside the trig point and is listed by Mark Jackson as the summit in the Humps.  The trig summit is easily attained, whilst the rock pillar requires competent climbing skill to slither up to its high point. 

The sign at the start of the walk

I’d read reports of this area but had not until today visited.  Thankfully the weather proved beautiful with unadulterated blue sky, albeit with a chilled east breeze whisking across the upper hill.  Mark had visited the trig summit before, and as he is bagging English Humps he was enthusiastic to see if any higher ground beside the castle and a private house was higher than the rock pillar.  Otherwise his English Hump completion may have to wait with one hill forever lingering out of his grasp. 

The castle from the edge of the car park

A car park close to the castle gives easy access to the various points we hoped to visit with good paths from one to another.  A path and steps led up to the castle which according to the information board was erected as a folly.  As with most follies it is a shell, but still impressive as it perches atop a rock outcrop, the high point of which looked as it was just the other side of the stepped section.  From here the top of the rock pillar could be seen and we soon dismissed the rock beside the castle as an overall high point. 

Another view of the castle

A path led down from the castle before swinging around to continue up toward the confines of the rock pillar.  A number of people were out enjoying the sunshine and extensive view.  The latter surprised me, but being on the edge of the Peak afforded a view westward across the Cheshire plain toward the sandstone escarpment of Raw Head. 

The Old Man of Mow

I hadn’t realised that access to the base of the rock pillar was so easy, imagining it to be situated in the depths of a quarry and difficult to get to from ground beside the trig point.  As we rounded a corner on the narrow path that led from an access track to a private house, there it was; an upthrust of rock towering above.  Being beside the rock pillar also gave opportunity to survey the connecting col between it and the trig summit.  I attempted this on three occasions, each time the Trimble struggled to get anywhere close to the 0.1m accuracy level before data should be logged.  However, the proximity of the rock pillar which cut off 180° of the immediate surrounds and the fact that the other half was also restricted due to the col being in the bowl of the quarry meant that the required accuracy level was not attained, therefore I closed the equipment down and headed up to join Mark beside the trig point. 

Attempting to gather data at the connecting col

We quickly assessed the area of land beside the trig and decided that a rock about 3-4 metres from its base was the high point.  After the Trimble was positioned with its internal antenna aligned to the high point of rock I headed back to the trig point and aligned its top so I looked across to what was now its flat and horizontal length toward the top of the rock pillar.  The pillar was just a little higher than the top of the trig.  This was done relatively quickly and would need an optical device to be certain.  However, it is a good indicator that the rock pillar is higher than the ground beside the trig. 

Gathering data at the summit of Mow Cop

Mark headed down to wait beside the rock pillar as the Trimble gathered data.  After the customary five minutes of data were gathered and stored I closed the equipment down, took a few photographs, and packed it away and joined Mark down in the confines of the quarried bowl.  We then followed our inward path out toward the private houses that dot the land hereabouts; one has land beside and above it that interested Mark as another potential point to rival the height of the rock pillar.  However, it was on what looked like private land and a quick visual inspection dismissed it as a candidate.  All that remained was to follow the tracks and paths back to the car.  It all proved an excellent day out with the temptation of homemade pizza waiting for the hungry walkers as they arrived back at Trengove Towers. 

 

Postscript: 

The summit of Mow Cop with the castle in the background on the left

Prior to visiting Mow Cop I had not realised how easy it was to access the trig summit from the base of the rock pillar.  I also did not realise how easy it was to sight from the trig point toward the pillar of rock and hence ascertain a measurement offset for its height in relation to the top of the trig point.  It was good to be able to gather data at the high point of land beside the trig, but a second visit would give opportunity to also ascertain an accurate height for the rock pillar.

Therefore, with the weather continuing set fine I was out relatively early scraping frost from the windows of my car before heading east to the delights of Mow Cop.  I’d come prepared with all necessary equipment to get a measurement onset for the rock pillar.  This consisted of my old wooden measuring staff, something that I rarely use nowadays, but it still does the business and especially so over the relatively short distance between the top of the trig point and the top of the rock pillar.  I knew from my previous visit that the rock pillar is a little higher than the top of the trig point as I’d aligned one with the other and with my measuring staff sighting to a maximum 5ft (1.52m) height I hoped this would be sufficient. 

Mow Cop Castle

The rather attractive houses of Mow Cop were relatively quiet when I drove through the small community and wound my way uphill to the National Park car park at the base of the castle.  I soon had my walking boots on and set off up the path to the castle to investigate the highest natural rock beside its base.  Steps lead up toward the locked interior of the castle with metal railings either side.  On my previous visit I thought rock on the right hand side of the steps to be the highest natural point beside the castle.  However, on closer inspection there is also rock on the left hand side that looked slightly higher. 

Looking out toward the rock pillar and the trig point from beside the castle

I followed the path Mark and I had taken three weeks ago that wound down steeply before continuing toward the narrow lanes and the path through the small section of moor toward the base of the rock pillar.  It felt good to be back with the opportunity to gather more data.

It’s only a short ascent from the base of the rock pillar to the trig point and again I looked at the various embedded rocks around its base and confirmed that the one Mark and I had chosen for Trimble placement was the highest.  However, I wanted to gather data from the top of the trig before gathering more data from this point. 

The equipment needed to take a height reading for the Old Man of Mow 

Before setting the Trimble up to gather data I assembled the measuring staff and sighted with the aid of a fixed spirit level toward the top of the rock pillar, using a post level for vertical alignment.  As the trig point is placed on a plinth I placed the bottom of the staff at the side of the trig on top of the plinth.  I sighted using an initial 5ft reading, this proved above the top of the rock pillar, therefore I altered the spirit level height to 4ft 6˝ and again sighted toward the top of the rock pillar.  This proved much closer with the spirit level just skimming a couple of inches below its top.  Therefore the rock pillar was approximately 4ft 8˝ higher than the base of the trig point on top of the plinth.  Placing an 18˝ ruler flat on the top of the trig point I then marked with chalk where this intersected with the measuring staff.  By doing so this gave the height different between the top of the trig and the spirit level position fixed on the staff.  The spirit level was 19.0cm (0.19m) above the top of the trig point; add a couple of inches for the height difference already sighted and this gave a measurement offset of 24cm (0.24m).  Therefore, gathering Trimble data from the top of the trig point and adding 0.24m to the result would give a fairly accurate height for the top of the rock pillar.  During this process there wasn’t a breath of breeze, which obviously helped with sighting from one place to the other. 

Almost ready to take a height reading at the top of the trig point to ascertain with a 0.24m offset the height for the Old Man of Mow

Happy with my endeavours I now sighted toward the ground at the base of the castle and the high ground above a private house that Mark and I investigated on our previous visit.  Both proved lower and therefore were dismissed as potential high points. 

The top of the Old Man of Mow

I now packed the various bits of equipment away and set the Trimble on top of the trig point to gather data.  During data collection I stood a safe distance away from the trig so as not to interfere with satellite reception.  I watched as one or two people sauntered close to the rock pillar on the earthen track that contours the base of the moor.  It was proving pleasantly warm in the early morning sunshine, but I still had a number of data sets I wanted to gather, so I did not linger.  The next two were from the same position; on top of the trig point.  This would give three data sets to compare and take an average of their heights. 

Gathering data at the top of the trig point

Once this was done I re-positioned the Trimble with its internal antenna aligned with the highest natural and embedded rock about three metres from the base of the trig point and proceeded to gather a further two data sets.  These would give comparison with the data set collected three weeks ago with Mark and again it would now give three data sets that could be compared and averaged for their height. 

Gathering data at the summit of Mow Cop

I would have been more than happy for this to be the end of my surveying activities.  However, when visiting with Mark I tried to gather data from the connecting col between the rock pillar and the trig point summit.  I failed on three occasions, probably due to the rock pillar being immediately above the Trimble and the equipment obviously did not enjoy its surrounds. 

The Old Man of Mow from Mow Cop

Since my initial visit I used LIDAR to ascertain a height and position of this col, with 1m DSM LIDAR giving two positions of equal height, approximately two metres apart.  Being here also gave opportunity to try to gather data from this connecting col again.  I decided to position the Trimble a couple of metres away from the immediate base of the rock pillar, hoping that this new position would compare favourably with the LIDAR position, it would at least give the Trimble a greater chance of achieving the 0.1m accuracy level before data should be logged. 

Gathering data at the connecting col between Mow Cop and the Old Man of Mow

It took around 15 minutes for the accuracy level to be attained and once the 0.1m mark appeared on the screen I pressed ‘Log’ and scampered off to wait for five minutes of data to be gathered and stored.  This proved a bonus survey as I had little expectation that I could gather data from this point.  Once a few photos were taken I packed the equipment away and sauntered back to my car.  The re-visit had proven a worthwhile exercise and I was back home for 1.30pm and relaxing in my back garden by 2.00pm.  It proved an excellent way to spend a morning! 

 

Survey Result: 

                  

Mow Cop

Summit Height:  335.2m (converted to OSGM15, average of three Trimble GeoXH 6000 surveys)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 85841 57544

Col Height:  323.7m (converted to OSGM15)

Col Grid Reference:  SJ 85828 57559

Drop:  11.5m

Dominance:  3.42%

 

 

Old Man of Mow

Summit Height:  336.5m (converted to OSGM15, average of three Trimble GeoXH 6000 surveys)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 85825 57560 (LIDAR)

Col Height:  193.0m (LIDAR)

Col Grid Reference:  SJ 87858 56821 (LIDAR)

Drop:  143.5m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR col)

Dominance:  42.65% (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR col)

 

 

For further details please consult the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet

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