Trwyn y Tal (SH 366 471)
There has been a Summit Relocation to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips.
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| LIDAR image of Trwyn y Tal (SH 366 471) |
The criteria for the list that this summit
relocation applies to are:
30-99m
Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 30m
and below 100m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 30-99m
Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or
above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips,
with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward.
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| 30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
The name the hill is listed by is Trwyn y Tal, and it is adjoined to the Yr Eifl group of hills, which are situated in the north-western part of North
Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A1), and
it is positioned with minor roads to its south-east, and the B4417 road farther
to its south and the A499 road farther to its east, and has the small community
of Trefor towards the south-east.
When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was not
included in the Hills to be surveyed
sub list, as it was considered not to meet the criteria then used for this sub
category.
After the sub list was standardised, and
interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill
were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 24m of drop, based on an
estimated c 52m summit height which was listed at SH 36676 47134 and an
estimated c 28m bwlch height, with both heights based on interpolation of 10m contouring
that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
However, it was not until LIDAR became available
that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed. The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging)
technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for
much of England and Wales.
LIDAR analysis gives the highest ground on this
hill as 52.1m positioned at SH 36685 47137.
However, LIDAR contouring implies its origins are man-made and protocols
dictate that as this is deemed a relatively recent man-made construct such
ground is discounted from the height of a hill.
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| LIDAR summit image of Trwyn y Tal (SH 366 471) |
The height produced by LIDAR analysis to the natural
summit of this hill is 51.8m and this is positioned at SH 36684 47142 and SH
36685 47143, and this comes within the parameters of the
Summit Relocations used within this page heading, these parameters are:
The term Summit Relocations applies when the high
point of the hill is found to be positioned; in a different field, to a
different feature such as in a conifer plantation, within a different map contour either on
Ordnance Survey maps or interactive mapping, to a different point where a
number of potential summit positions are within close proximity, when natural
ground or the natural and intact summit of a hill is confirmed compared to a
higher point such as a raised field boundary or covered reservoir that is
considered a relatively recent man-made construct, or the de-twinning of a
summit, or a relocation of approximately 100 metres or more in distance from
either the position of a map spot height or from where the summit of the hill
was previously thought to exist.
Therefore, the height produced by LIDAR analysis
to the summit of this hill is 51.8m and is positioned at SH 36684 47142 and SH
36685 47143, this position is not
given a spot height on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and
1:25,000 Explorer map and is approximately six metres northward from where the
high point of the man-made construct is positioned.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Yr Eifl
Name: Trwyn y Tal
OS 1:50,000 map: 123
Summit Height: 51.8m (LIDAR)
Summit Grid Reference (New Position): SH 36684 47142 & SH 36685 47143 (LIDAR)
Bwlch Height: 25.6m (LIDAR)
Bwlch Grid Reference: SH 36604 46908 (LIDAR)
Drop: 26.2m (LIDAR)
Myrddyn Phillips
(September 2025)
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