Mapping Mountains – Significant Height Revisions – 30-99m Twmpau

 

30-99m Twmpau – Significant Height Revisions

The 30-99m Twmpau (thirty welsh metre prominences and upward) are the Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height that have a minimum drop of 30m.  Accompanying the main P30 list are two sub lists entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau with the qualification to this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, and the Double Sub-Twmpau with the qualification to this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 20m and below 30m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.

The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the posts that have appeared on Mapping Mountains detailing the significant height revisions to the main P30 list and the sub lists appear below presented chronologically in receding order.

Mapping Mountains - Significant Height Revisions - 30-99m Twmpau

Cae Ynys Edwin (SN 678 963) - 43rd significant height revision

Hill Reclassifications post for Cae Ynys Edwin

Significant Name Changes post for Cae Ynys Edwin

 

There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Cae Ynys Edwin (SN 678 963)

The criteria for the list that this height revision applies to are:

30-99m Twmpau - Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 30m minimum drop, this height band of hills has two accompanying sub lists, the first of which is entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, and the second sub category is entitled the Double Sub-Twmpau with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 20m and below 30m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is now listed by is Cae Ynys Edwin and this was derived from the Tithe map, and it is adjoined to the Banc Llechwedd Mawr group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with a minor road to its immediate south-east and the A487 road farther to its south-east, and has the small community of Ffwrnais (Furnace) towards the south south-east.

When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was not included in the Hills to be surveyed sub list, as it was considered not to meet the criteria then used for this sub category.

After the sub list was standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 15m of drop, based on an estimated c 23m summit height and an estimated c 8m bwlch height, with both heights based on interpolation of 10m contouring that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR summit image of Cae Ynys Edwin (SN 678 963)

The summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 29.5m and is positioned at SN 67832 96352, and this comes within the parameters of the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Significant Height Revisions applies to any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey, Harvey or other interactive map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data produced via LIDAR.  Also included are hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared with the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis.

Therefore, the new listed summit height of this hill is 29.5m and this was derived from LIDAR analysis, this is 6.5m higher than the previously listed summit height of c 23m, which was based on interpolation of its uppermost 20m ring contour that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Banc Llechwedd Mawr 

Name:  Cae Ynys Edwin 

OS 1:50,000 map:  135

Summit Height (New Height):  29.5m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 67832 96352 (LIDAR)               

Bwlch Height:  4.2m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 67880 96073 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  25.3m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (December)

Mapping Mountains - Significant Height Revisions - 30-99m Twmpau

Coed y Fedw (SN 677 947) - 42nd significant height revision

Hill Reclassifications post for Coed y Fedw

 

There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Coed y Fedw (SN 677 947)

The criteria for the list that this height revision applies to are:

30-99m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is listed by is Coed y Fedw, and it is adjoined to the Banc Llechwedd Mawr group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with the A487 road to its south-east, and has the small community of Ffwrnais (Furnace) towards the east north-east.

When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was not included in the Hills to be surveyed sub list, as it was considered not to meet the criteria then used for this sub category.

After the sub list was standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 22m of drop, based on an estimated c 46m summit height and an estimated c 24m bwlch height, with both heights based on interpolation of 10m contouring. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR summit image of Coed y Fedw (SN 677 947)

The summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 49.6m and is positioned at SN 67780 94773, and this comes within the parameters of the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Significant Height Revisions applies to any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey, Harvey or other interactive map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data produced via LIDAR.  Also included are hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared with the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis.

Therefore, the new listed summit height of this hill is 49.6m and this was derived from LIDAR analysis, this is 3.6m higher than the previously listed summit height of c 46m, which was based on interpolation of its uppermost 40m ring contour that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Banc Llechwedd Mawr 

Name:  Coed y Fedw 

OS 1:50,000 map:  135

Summit Height (New Height):  49.6m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 67780 94773 (LIDAR)               

Bwlch Height:  22.1m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 67635 94495 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  27.5m (LIDAR) 

               

Myrddyn Phillips (November 2024)

 

Mapping Mountains - Significant Height Revisions - 30-99m Twmpau

Penllwyngwyn Mawr (SN 549 007) - 41st significant height revision

Summit Relocations post for Penllwyngwyn Mawr

Significant Name Changes post for Penllwyngwyn Mawr

 

There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau and Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop, dominance and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips.               

LIDAR image of Penllwyngwyn Mawr (SN 549 007)

The criteria for the two listings that this height revision applies to are:

30-99m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales – Welsh P30 hills whose prominence equal or exceed half that of their absolute height.  With the criteria for Lesser Dominant status being those additional Welsh P30 hills whose prominence is between one third and half that of their absolute height.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips with the Introduction to the start of the Mapping Mountains publication of this list appearing on the 3^rd December 2015, and the list is now available in its entirety on Mapping Mountains in Google Doc format. 

Y Trechol - The Dominant Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is now listed by is Penllwyngwyn Mawr and this was derived from the Tithe map, and it is adjoined to the Mynydd Sylen group of hills, which are situated in the southern part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B5), and it is positioned with the B4297 road to its immediate north and to its south, and has the town of Llanelli towards the west.

When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was included in the main P30 list with a 72m summit height, based on the spot height positioned at SN 55146 00863 that appears on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

When the sub list was standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 47m of drop, based on an estimated c 75m summit height positioned at SH 54904 00700 and an estimated c 28m bwlch height, based on interpolation of 5m contouring between 25m – 30m.  With the caveat that the uppermost 75m ring contour had been missed when the details for this hill were first compiled and published.

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR summit image of Penllwyngwyn Mawr (SN 549 007)

The summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 76.8m and is positioned at SN 54907 00706, and this comes within the parameters of the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Significant Height Revisions applies to any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey or Harvey map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data produced via LIDAR, also included are hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared to the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis.

Therefore, the new listed summit height of this hill is 76.8m and this was derived from LIDAR analysis, this is 4.8m higher than the originally listed summit height of 72m, which was based on the spot height that appears on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Mynydd Sylen 

Name:  Penllwyngwyn Mawr 

OS 1:50,000 map:  164, 178

Summit Height (New Height):  76.8m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 54907 00706 (LIDAR)               

Bwlch Height:  25.0m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 53996 01771 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  51.8m (LIDAR) 

Dominance:  67.44% (LIDAR)

 

Myrddyn Phillips (October 2024)

Mapping Mountains - Significant Height Revisions - 30-99m Twmpau

Bigyn (SS 512 998) - 40th significant height revision

Hill Reclassifications post for Bigyn

 

There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Bigyn (SS 512 998)

The criteria for the list that this height revision applies to are:

30-99m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is listed by is Bigyn and it is adjoined to the Mynydd Sylen group of hills, which are situated in the southern part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B5), and it is positioned with the A484 road to its north and the B4304 road to its south, and has the town of Llanelli surrounding it.

When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was not included in the Hills to be surveyed sub list, as it was considered not to meet the criteria then used for this sub category.

After the sub list was standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 16m of drop, based on the 43m summit spot height that appeared on the Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website and which was entitled the Interactive Coverage Map, and an estimated c 27m bwlch height, based on interpolation of 5m contouring between 25m – 30m. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR summit image of Bigyn (SS 512 998)

The summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 45.8m and is positioned at SS 51218 99827, and this comes within the parameters of the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Significant Height Revisions applies to any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey or Harvey map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data produced via LIDAR, also included are hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared to the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis.

Therefore, the new listed summit height of this hill is 45.8m and this was derived from LIDAR analysis, this is 2.8m higher than the previously listed summit height of 43m, which was based on the spot height that appeared on the Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website and which was entitled the Interactive Coverage Map.

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Mynydd Sylen 

Name:  Bigyn 

OS 1:50,000 map:  159

Summit Height (New Height):  45.8m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SS 51218 99827 (LIDAR)               

Bwlch Height:  20.7m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 51552 00728 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  25.1m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (September 2024)

Mapping Mountains - Significant Height Revisions - 30-99m Twmpau

Carreg Rhoson (SM 672 256) - 39th significant height revision

Hill Reclassifications post for Carreg Rhoson

 

There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau and the Y Pellennig – The Remotest Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from detail on the DataMapWales. 

Carreg Rhoson (SM 672 256 - the island on the right

The criteria for the lists that this height revision applies to are:

30-99m Twmpau - Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 30m minimum drop, this height band of hills has two accompanying sub lists, the first of which is entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, and the second sub category is entitled the Double Sub-Twmpau with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 20m and below 30m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

Y Pellennig –The Remotest Hills of Wales - Welsh hills whose summit is at least 2.5km from the nearest paved public road and the hill has a minimum 15m of drop.  The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams and is available as a downloadable e-booklet or print-booklet version on Mapping Mountains Publications with the up-to-date master list available on Mapping Mountains to download in Google Doc format. 

Y Pellennig - The Remotest Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams

The name the hill is listed by is Carreg Rhoson, and it is adjoined to the Garn Fawr group of hills which are situated in the south-western part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it forms a part of the islet chain known as Carreg Rhoson, and is positioned to the west of the Pembrokeshire coast, with the small city of Tyddewi (St David’s) towards the east.

When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was not included in the main P30 list as the small uppermost 30m ring contour that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map had been missed. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

After the sub list was standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 30m summit height, based on interpolation of its uppermost 30m ring contour.  As this hill is the high point of an island it was also listed with an estimated c 30m drop. 

Extract from the DataMapWales

However, it was not until the DataMapWales became available online that the details of this hill could be checked against a product viewed as being more accurate than the contouring on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.  This mapping has a 28m spot height for this hill and this is similar to the 27.42m summit height produced by the surface analysis programme developed by Joe Nuttall (JNSA) that uses the OS Terrain product where LIDAR coverage is not available, and this comes within the parameters of the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Significant Height Revisions applies to any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey or Harvey map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data produced via LIDAR, also included are hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared to the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis.

Therefore, the new listed summit height of this hill is 28m and this was derived from detail on the DataMapWales, this is 2m lower than the previously listed summit height of c 30m, which was based on interpolation of its uppermost 30m ring contour that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer.

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Garn Fawr

Name:  Carreg Rhoson

OS 1:50,000 map:  157

Summit Height:  28m (spot height)

Summit Grid Reference:  SM 67228 25658 (JNSA)

Bwlch Height:  N/A (island)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  N/A (island)

Drop:  28m (spot height)

Remoteness:  5.175km (JNSA)

 

Myrddyn Phillips (July 2024)

Mapping Mountains - Significant Height Revisions - 30-99m Twmpau

Bryn (SH 782 798) - 38th significant height revision

Significant Name Changes post for Bryn

 

There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Bryn (SH 782 798)

The criteria for the list that this height revision applies to are:

30-99m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is now listed by is Bryn and this was derived from the Tithe map, and it is adjoined to the Mynydd Hiraethog group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A2), and it is positioned with the A546 road to its west and the B5115 road to its south-east, and has the town of Deganwy towards the north.

When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was included in the Hills to be surveyed sub list with a summit height of 90m, based on the spot height that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.

When the sub list was standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 23m of drop, based on the 90m summit spot height and an estimated c 67m bwlch height, based on interpolation of 5m contouring between 65m – 70m. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR summit image of Bryn (SH 782 798)

The summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 87.2m and is positioned at SH 78234 79892, and this comes within the parameters of the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Significant Height Revisions applies to any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey or Harvey map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data produced via LIDAR, also included are hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared to the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis.

Therefore, the new listed summit height of this hill is 87.2m and this was derived from LIDAR analysis, this is 2.8m lower than the previously listed summit height of 90m, which was based on the spot height that appears on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Mynydd Hiraethog 

Name:  Bryn 

OS 1:50,000 map:  115

Summit Height (New Height):  87.2m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SH 78234 79892 (LIDAR)               

Bwlch Height:  65.6m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SH 78372 79790 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  21.6m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (June 2024)

 

Mapping Mountains - Significant Height Revisions - 30-99m Twmpau

Cefn y Coed (SH 667 172) - 37th significant height revision

Summit Relocations post for Cefn y Coed

Significant Name Changes post for Cefn y Coed

 

There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau and Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop, dominance and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Cefn y Coed (SH 667 172)

The criteria for the two listings that this height revision applies to are:

30-99m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales – Welsh P30 hills whose prominence equal or exceed half that of their absolute height.  With the criteria for Lesser Dominant status being those additional Welsh P30 hills whose prominence is between one third and half that of their absolute height.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips with the Introduction to the start of the Mapping Mountains publication of this list appearing on the 3^rd December 2015, and the list is now available in its entirety on Mapping Mountains in Google Doc format. 

Y Trechol - The Dominant Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is now listed by is Cefn y Coed and this was derived from the Tithe map, and it is adjoined to the Cadair Idris group of hills, which are situated in the south-western part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A3), and it is positioned with the A493 road to its south-east, and has the town of Dolgellau towards the east.

When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was included in the main P30 list with a non-interpolated summit height of c 90m positioned at SH 666 172, with an accompanying note stating; Two points of same height, a reference to the two uppermost 90m ring contours that appear on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

When the sub list was standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 64m of drop, based on an estimated c 91m summit height positioned at SH 66668 17206 and an estimated c 27m bwlch height, based on interpolation of 10m contouring between 20m – 30m, with these values giving this hill 70.33% dominance.

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales.

The summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 89.0m and is positioned at SH 66751 17241, and this comes within the parameters of the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Significant Height Revisions applies to any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey or Harvey map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data produced via LIDAR, also included are hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared to the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis.

Therefore, the new listed summit height of this hill is 89.0m and this was derived from LIDAR analysis, this is 2.0m lower than the previously listed summit height of c 90m, which was based on interpolation of the uppermost 90m ring contour that appears on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Cadair Idris 

Name:  Cefn y Coed 

OS 1:50,000 map:  124

Summit Height (New Height):  89.0m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SH 66751 17241 (LIDAR)               

Bwlch Height:  26.7m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SH 67045 17182 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  62.3m (LIDAR) 

Dominance:  69.98% (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (May 2024)

Mapping Mountains - Significant Height Revisions - 30-99m Twmpau

Needle Rock (SM 975 379) - 36th significant height revision

 

There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 30-99m Twmpau and Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop, dominance and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Needle Rock (SM 975 379)

30-99m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 30-99m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 30m and below 100m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

The 30-99m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales – Welsh P30 hills whose prominence equal or exceed half that of their absolute height.  With the criteria for Lesser Dominant status being those additional Welsh P30 hills whose prominence is between one third and half that of their absolute height.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips with the Introduction to the start of the Mapping Mountains publication of this list appearing on the 3^rd December 2015, and the list is now available in its entirety on Mapping Mountains in Google Doc format. 

Y Trechol - The Dominant Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is listed by is Needle Rock, and it is adjoined to the Mynydd Preseli group of hills, which are situated in the south-western part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with the A487 road to its south, and has the town of Abergwaun (Fishguard) towards the west south-west.

When the original 30-99m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was included in the main P30 list with a summit height of 40m, with an accompanying note stating; Approximate height of tidal sea stack from Dave Viggers. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

This hill is a sea stack and is cut off from mainland Wales at high tide.  As the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer map give this hill no spot height or contours it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR summit image of Needle Rock (SM 975 379)

The summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 33.9m and is positioned at SM 97569 37997, and this comes within the parameters of the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Significant Height Revisions applies to any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey or Harvey map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data produced via LIDAR, also included are hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared to the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis. 

Therefore, the new listed summit height of this hill is 33.9m and this was derived from LIDAR analysis, this is 6.1m lower than the originally listed summit height of 40m, which was based on an approximation given the author by Dave Viggers.

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Mynydd Preseli 

Name:  Needle Rock 

OS 1:50,000 map:  159

Summit Height (New Height):  33.9m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SM 97569 37997 (LIDAR)               

Bwlch Height:  N/A sea level (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SM 97566 37987 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  33.9m (LIDAR) 

Dominance:  100.00% (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (August 2023)