Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – The Welsh P15s

Cae West (SH 813 819) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Welsh P15s, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Cae West (SH 813 819)

The criteria for the list that this name change is applicable to are:

The Welsh P15s – Welsh hills with 15m minimum drop, irrespective of their height, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Welsh Sub-P15s, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills with 14m or more and below 15m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 10^th May 2019. 

The Welsh P15s by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Mynydd Hiraethog group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A2), and it is positioned with the B5115 road to its north-east, and a minor road to its south, and has the town of Llandudno towards the west north-west.

When the listing that became known as The Welsh P15s was being compiled, this hill was included in the main P15 list under the point (Pt. c 81m) notation with an estimated c 18m of drop, based on an estimated c 81m summit height and an estimated c 63m bwlch height, with both heights based on interpolation of 5m contouring. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

As the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales. 

Extract from the Tithe map

The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 72 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Cae West in the apportionments, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the parish of Llandudno and in the county named as Caernarfon. 

Extract from the apportionments

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Welsh P15s is Cae West and this was derived from the Tithe map. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Mynydd Hiraethog 

Name:  Cae West

Previously Listed Name:  Pt. c 81m 

OS 1:50,000 map:  116

Summit Height:  80.3m (LIDAR)                                                           

Summit Grid Reference:  SH 81343 81957 (LIDAR)                                                  

Bwlch Height:  63.0m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SH 81395 81871 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  17.3m (LIDAR) 

 

My thanks to Aled Williams for advise relating to the listed name of this hill 

Myrddyn Phillips (December 2024)