Yr Allt (SO 196 358)
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill
that is listed in the Y Trichant – The
300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their
locations, the drop and status of the hill confirmed by LIDAR analysis
conducted by Myrddyn Phillips.
LIDAR image of Yr Allt (SO 196 358) |
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to
are:
Y Trichant – Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in
height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant with the criteria for this sub category being all
Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and
below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the
Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains
on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the
Mynyddoedd Duon group of hills which are situated in the eastern part of South
Wales (Region C, Sub-Region C3), and it is positioned with minor roads to its
west, north and east, with the A4078 road further to its west and the A438 road
further to its north-west, and has the village of Aberllynfi (Three Cocks)
towards the north-west.
The hill originally
appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name
of Hay Forest The Allt, which are two
names that appear near the summit of this hill on the contemporary Ordnance
Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map of the day.
Hay Forest The Allt | 330c | SO197359 | 161 | 13 |
During my early hill
listing I paid little regard to name placement on the map, or the meaning of
names and to what feature the name was appropriately applied to. Therefore I prioritised names for listing
purposes that I now understand are either inappropriate or where another name
is viewed as being more appropriate.
For confirmation of this
hill’s name I made local enquires and was put in contact with David Lewis who
is aged 72 and has lived the whole of his life in this area; partly in Talgarth
and for the last 25 years in Aberllynfi (Three Cocks). David told me that the forested section of
the hill is known as Hay Forest and the hill is known as The Alt (David’s
pronunciation).
Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
The intricacies of language and prioritising one
in favour of another for listing a hill is fraught with complication, with
originating Cymraeg names being anglicised and also originating English names
being cymricised, examples such as these are more common in border country and
especially so for anglicised forms.
There is no steadfast rule that fits all, but as a standard a name that
has its origins in the Welsh language should be prioritised in favour of a
contemporary anglicised or English version of the name, and ideally for this to
be substantiated by either historic documentation and / or contemporary
usage. Likewise, if a name exists where
an element of it is in English and if this name applies to a hill that is
situated in a Welsh speaking part of Wales it is standard practice to use a
full Welsh term for the name. It is also
standard practice to use a Welsh name for a hill if another name exists that
has originated in a different language.
Therefore, the name this hill
is now listed by in the Y Trichant – The
300m Hills of Wales is Yr Allt, and this was derived from the contemporary Ordnance
Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map, and substantiated locally, with the
Welsh originating name for this hill prioritised over the partly English
version, which for listing purposes is standard practice.
The full details for the
hill are:
Group: Mynyddoedd Duon
Name: Yr Allt
Previously Listed
Name: Hay Forest The Allt
OS 1:50,000 map: 161
Summit Height: 334.0m (LIDAR, natural summit)
Summit Grid
Reference: SO 19677 35879 (LIDAR,
natural summit)
Bwlch Height: 301.7m (LIDAR)
Bwlch Grid Reference: SO 20120 35549 (LIDAR)
Drop: 32.3m (LIDAR)
Myrddyn Phillips
(December 2019)
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