There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, summit location and drop of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH survey which took place on the 5th April 2018.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – All Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant consisting of all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and the re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Y Berwyn range of hills which are situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and is positioned between the B 4393 road to its north and the B 4382 road to its west, and has the small community of Llanfihangel-yng-Ngwynfa towards the west.
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Ffridd Top Llety (SJ 089 167) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Bryn, with its 347m map heighted summit positioned at SJ 085 168. Since this hill was first listed the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website has become available and this map shows a second 347m map heighted summit positioned at SJ 089 167, these will be referred to as the westerly top and easterly top respectively in parts of this article.
As these two summits of this hill comprise bounded land the details for each were examined on the Tithe map. The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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Extract from the Tithe map showing the name of the westerly field |
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Extract from the apportionments showing the name of the westerly field |
The enclosed land where the westerly top of this hill is situated is given the number 738 on the Tithe map, and the enclosed land where the easterly top of this hill is situated is given the number 663 on the Tithe map, these can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of the westerly top is situated is named as Cae Mawr, and the land where the summit of the easterly top is situated is named as Cefnydd, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the county named as Montgomery and in the parish of Llanfihangel.
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Extract from the Tithe map showing the name of the easterly field |
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Extract from the apportionments showing the name of the easterly field |
However, these names were those known for the enclosed fields at the time of the Tithe, and for listing purposes the names used should be those that the enclosed fields are nowadays known as, if indeed different to those from the time of the Tithe. And the person to verify the present day name for each field is the local farmer whose land the westerly and easterly top of this hill is situated on, and the local farmer is Martin Davies.
When descending the hill I flagged Martin down who along with a colleague was driving a quad bike up the track to retrieve a dead lamb. Martin is aged 54 and farms from Penisarllan, which is to the west of the hill and on the periphery of Llanfihangel-yng-Ngwynfa. Martin explained that his Great Grandfather moved to Penisarllen as a tenant farmer in the 1930’s and that his father had bought the land from Sir Watkins Williams-Wynn in the 1950’s and 1960’s. During our conversation Martin gave me a number of field names, including Cae Llan which was the field where we were standing and which at the time of the Tithe was known as Cae y Llan, however all other field names that Martin gave me were different to the time of the Tithe except for Cae Mawr, but this was the name given to a field a little north-east of his farm and not to the westerly top of the hill.
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Martin Davies |
The other field names that Martin gave were; Cae Llwybr which he said was a four acre square field, Ffridd Dan Fence which is not surprisingly the field under the fence and placed adjacent to the easterly top and Cae Chwarel which is the field adjacent to the old disused quarry.
I then asked Martin about the two higher fields, with the westerly one being above us from where we were standing, he said that this field is known as Bryn as it was adjoined to the old farmstead of Bryn which is situated to the south-east of the field, whilst the easterly one is known as Ffridd Top Llety as it was adjoined to the Llety farm, which is situated to the north-east of the field.
Therefore, as LIDAR analysis and Trimble data give the easterly field as higher than the westerly field the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Ffridd Top Llety, and this was derived from local enquiry.
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The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Ffridd Top Llety |
The full details for the hill are:
Previously Listed Name: Bryn
Summit Height: 346.6m (converted to OSGM15)
Summit Grid Reference: SJ 08997 16748
Drop: 69.6m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (May 2018)
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Foel Caerynwch (SH 772 179) - 34th significant name change
Survey post for Foel Caerynwch
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH survey which took place on the 26th February 2018.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – All Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant consisting of all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and the re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Aran range of hills which are situated in the south-western part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A3), and is positioned between the A 494 road to its north and the A 470 road to its south, with the B 4416 road to its north-west, and has the small community of Brithdir to its north and the town of Dolgellau to its west.
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Foel Caerynwch (SH 772 179) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Y Foel, this is the name given it on Ordnance Survey maps of the day as well as on current maps.
Even an established map name is worth investigating either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research the established map name can be validated, however it can also be queried and in some cases the name can be expanded from its shortened map version.
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Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
When visiting this hill I met Dewi Thomas; a contractor, who along with a colleague was rebuilding one of many stone walls in the area. After introducing myself and explaining my interest in upland place-names I pointed toward this hill and asked about its name, Dewi gave the name of Foel Caerynwch for the hill and kindly spelt the name for me. Although not a farmer, Dewi is local to the area and lives in Dolgellau.
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Dewi Thomas |
After visiting and surveying the summit of this hill I met Marion and Terry Ogden who were outside their house of Tyn-llidiart. During our conversation Marion named the hill as Foel Caerynwch and asked if I had seen the wooden marker post beside the path that I had just descended, I had, but had not examined it; Marion said I should as the name of the hill appears on it.
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Terry and Marion Ogden |
I backtracked and found an information board erected by the Snowdonia National Park, a finger post and the wooden marker post, with the last two no doubt also having been put in place by the National Park, and all naming the hill as Foel Caerynwch.
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Snowdonia National Park information board |
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Finger post |
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Marker post |
As the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map. The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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Extract from the Tithe map |
The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 58 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Caerynwch, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the county named as Merioneth and in the parish of Dolgelley [sic].
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Extract from the apportionments |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Foel Caerynwch, and this was derived from local enquiry, substantiated by the Snowdonia National Park, with the bounded land where the summit of the hill is situated confirmed by the Tithe map.
The full details for the hill are:
Previously Listed Name: Y Foel
Summit Height: 342.9m (converted to OSGM15)
Summit Grid Reference: SH 77261 17997
Drop: 38.9m (converted to OSGM15)
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The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Foel Caerynwch |
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Ffridd y Waun (SH 688 171) - 33rd significant name change
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the criteria for the list that this name change applies to being:
Y Trichant – Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant consisting of all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and the re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Cadair Idris range of hills which are situated in the south-western part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A3), and it overlooks the stream valley of the Gwynant to its south-west and the A 493 road to its north and has the town of Dolgellau towards its east.
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Ffridd y Waun (SH 688 171) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Dolgledr. During my early hill listing I paid little regard to name placement on a map, or the meaning of names and to what feature the name was appropriately applied to and used many names that seemingly applied to a hill and whose placement was nearest the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. Therefore I prioritised names for listing purposes that I now understand are inappropriate, and as the name of Dolgledr applies to a township associated with Dolgellau it is not appropriate for the name of this hill, and it was a local farmer who has lived the whole of his life close to this hill that gave the name of Ffridd y Waun for the land where the summit of the hill is situated.
The local farmer is Emyr Rees who is aged 70 and is a Welsh speaker and has lived all of his life at Tynyceunant (SH 688 152), this farm is situated to the south of the hill. When we met at the start of the access track leading to his farm Emyr was in the process of fixing a post with a large mallet, after introducing myself and explaining my interest in upland place-names, I pointed to the hill to our north and asked Emyr its name, he explained that it is a part of Waen Fechan (SH 686 166) land and known as Ffridd y Waun (the spelling of the word Waun follows standard modern Welsh). Emyr also gave me a number of other names for near hills or the bounded land where the summit of each was situated, these have been detailed in previous Significant Name Changes posts.
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Emyr Rees of Tynyceunant |
As the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map. The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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Extract from the Tithe map |
The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 198 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Waenfechan, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the county named as Merioneth and in the parish of Dolgelley [sic].
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Extract from the Apportionments |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Ffridd y Waun, and this was derived from local enquiry, with the bounded land where the summit of the hill is situated confirmed by the Tithe map.
The full details for the hill are:
Previously Listed Name: Dolgledr
OS 1:50,000 map: 124
Summit Height: 308.2 (LIDAR)
Summit Grid Reference: SH 68863 17174 (LIDAR)
Bwlch Height: 230.85m (LIDAR)
Bwlch Grid Reference: SH 69638 16763 (LIDAR)
Drop: 77.3m (LIDAR)
Myrddyn Phillips (April 2018)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Moel Fynydd (SH 697 161) - 32nd significant name change
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that appears in the following lists; Y Trichant and Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales, with the criteria for the two listings that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – All Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant consisting of all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and the re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales – All Welsh P30 hills whose prominence equal or exceed half that of their absolute height. With the criteria for Lesser Dominant status being those addition Welsh P30 hills whose prominence is 33% or more and below 50% of their absolute height. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips with the Introduction to the start of the Mapping Mountains publication of this list appearing on the 3rd December 2015.
The hill is adjoined to the Cadair Idris range of hills which are situated in the south-western part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A3), and it overlooks Llyn Gwernan to its east south-east and the town of Dolgellau to its east north-east.
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Moel Fynydd (SH 697 161) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Craig y Castell. During my early hill listing I paid little regard to name placement on a map, or the meaning of names and to what feature the name was appropriately applied to and used many names that seemingly applied to a hill and whose placement was nearest the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. Therefore I prioritised names for listing purposes that I now understand are inappropriate, and as the positioning of the name Craig y Castell on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps implies, that part of the hill is known by this name and is directly associated with an ancient fortification, and in the case of the hill whose summit is positioned at SH 697 161 it was a local farmer who has lived the whole of his life under this hill that gave the name of Moel Fynydd.
Craig y Castell
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321m
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124
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Marilyn. Clem/Yeaman. aka Moel Gwernan.
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The local farmer is Emyr Rees who is aged 70 and is a Welsh speaker and has lived all of his life at Tynyceunant (SH 688 152), this farm is situated to the south-west of the hill. When we met Emyr was wielding a large mallet and was in the process of fixing a post. We met at the start of the access track beside the narrow road that leads to his farm and this hill was directly above us and therefore after introducing myself and explaining my interest in upland place-names, all I had to do was point and say ‘what about that one, has it a name?’, Emyr replied ‘that’s Moel Fynydd’. Emyr also gave me a number of other names for near hills or the bounded land where the summit of each was situated, some have been detailed in previous Significant Name Changes posts, the one that has not will be detailed in a forthcoming one.
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Emyr Rees of Tynyceunant |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant and Y Trechol – The Dominant Hills of Wales is Moel Fynydd and this name was derived from local enquiry.
The full details for the hill are:
Previously Listed Name: Craig y Castell
OS 1:50,000 map: 124
Summit Height: 321.4m (LIDAR)
Summit Grid Reference: SH 69777 16198 (LIDAR)
Bwlch Height: 167.8m (LIDAR)
Bwlch Grid Reference: SH 70838 16524 (LIDAR)
Dominance: 47.78% (LIDAR)
Myrddyn Phillips (April 2018)
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Ffridd Nant y Gwyrddail (SH 674 147) - 31st significant name change
Bwlch survey post for Ffridd Nant y Gwyrddail
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant consisting of all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and the re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Cadair Idris range of hills which are situated in the south-western part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A3), and it overlooks the double lakes of Llynnau Cregennan which are to its west south-west and is situated between the small community of Arthog to its west and the town of Dolgellau to its east north-east.
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Ffridd Nant y Gwyrddail (SH 674 147) |
The hill appeared in the 200m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the partly invented name of Bryn Nant-y-gwyrddail with an accompanying note stating; Name from buildings to the South-West. During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and as the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.
Bryn Nant-y-gwyrddail
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312m
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124
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Name from buildings to the South-West
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The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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Extract from the Tithe map |
The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 168 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Nantgwyrddeil [sic], with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the county named as Merioneth and in the parish of Dolgelley [sic].
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Extract from the apportionments |
The name given this bounded land relates to a farm named Nant-y-gwyrddail that is positioned at SH 671 143 and to the south-west of this hill’s summit. Having visited a number of neighbouring hills and surveying the critical bwlch of this hill I then visited this farm and met Ceri Williams and her young son and daughter. Ceri and her husband; Gwern, had moved here recently from the Garndolbenmaen area north-west of Porthmadog, she explained that the farm is tenanted from the National Trust and confirmed their boundary, which takes in the land where the summit of this hill is situated. As Ceri is a newcomer to this area she suggested I should visit Emyr Rees who farms from Tynyceunant (SH 688 152).
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Ceri Williams of Nant-y-gwyrddail and family |
As I pulled up in my car at the access track that leads to Tynyceunant, Emyr had just pulled up in his Landrover and was wielding a mighty mallet readying himself to work on a new fence post. Emyr is aged 70 and has lived at Tynyceunant all his life and is a Welsh speaker. After introducing myself and explaining my interest in upland place-names, we talked about the hills and their names. Emyr told me that the land where the summit of this hill is situated is a part of Nant-y-gwyrddail and known as Ffridd Nant y Gwyrddail. Emyr also gave me a number of other names for near hills, which will be detailed in later Significant Name Changes posts.
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Emyr Rees of Tynyceunant |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Ffridd Nant y Gwyrddail, and this name was derived from local enquiry, with the bounded land where the summit of the hill is situated confirmed by the Tithe map and substantiated with the present resident of the farm of Nant-y-gwyrddail.
The full details for the hill are:
Name: Ffridd Nant y Gwyrddail
Previously Listed Name: Bryn Nant-y-gwyrddail
OS 1:50,000 map: 124
Summit Height: 311.5 (LIDAR)
Summit Grid Reference: SH 67419 14719 (LIDAR)
Bwlch Height: 237.7m (Leica GS15 & Trimble GeoXH 6000)
Bwlch Grid Reference: SH 66210 13444 (Leica GS15 & Trimble GeoXH 6000)
Drop: 73.8m (LIDAR summit and Leica GS15 & Trimble GeoXH 6000 bwlch)
Myrddyn Phillips (April 2018)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Llain (SO 031 628) - 30th significant name change
Survey post for Llain
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that was surveyed for Sub-Trichant status, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 2nd February 2018 and subsequent LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant consisting of all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and the re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Hirddywel range of hills which are situated in the northern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and is positioned above the A 4081 road which is to its south-east, and has the small community of Llanllŷr to its east and the town of Llandrindod to its east south-east.
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Llain (SO 031 628) |
This hill was not listed in the sub list that accompanied the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website as it did not meet the criteria used at that time, and therefore this hill has never appeared in a published hill list, but the name given to the bounded land where the summit of the hill is situated is worth documenting as it does not appear on an Ordnance Survey map and has been derived from the Tithe map.
The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 655 on the Tithe map |
The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 655 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Llain and described as Pasture in the apportionments accompanying the Tithe map; it appears in the county named as Radnor and in the parish of Llanyre.
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When cross referenced in the apportionments the enclosed land is named Llain |
Therefore, the name this hill is now documented as is Llain and this was derived from the Tithe map.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Hirddywel
Name: Llain
Previously Listed Name: not previously listed
Summit Height: 360.6m (converted to OSGM15) (Trimble GeoXH 6000)
OS 1:50,000 map: 147
Summit Grid Reference: SO 03132 62802 (Trimble GeoXH 6000)
Drop: 19.4m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR bwlch)
Myrddyn Phillips (March 2018)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Mynydd Bach (SJ 051 123) - 29th significant name change
Survey post for Mynydd Bach
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 26th January 2018.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant consisting of all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and the re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Y Berwyn range of hills which are situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and is positioned between the Afon Banwy to the south and the Afon Efyrnwy (River Vyrnwy) to the north-east, with the A 458 road to its south-west and the small community of Dolanog which is to its east north-east.
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Mynydd Bach (SJ 051 123) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Pen-y-graig. During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them, or as in this instance, use the name of a building which I thought that of the hill.
This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was a local farmer who owns the land where the summit of the hill is situated who gave the name of Mynydd Bach.
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Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Historical map |
The local farmer is Trefor Jones who farms from Maes Celynog which is situated towards the south of the hill. Whilst visiting this hill and its adjacent P30 I was fortunate to meet Trefor who was on his way up to the lower field of this hill in his tractor. He stopped and we chatted for a number of minutes with him explaining that the hill is known as Mynydd Bach and it is on land that he owns having bought it off an adjacent farm. Trefor is a Welsh speaker and gave me the translation of the hill’s name as small mountain.
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Trefor Jones |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Mynydd Bach and this name was derived from local enquiry.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Y Berwyn
Name: Mynydd Bach
Previously Listed Name: Pen-y-graig
Summit Height: 324.9m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 125
Summit Grid Reference: SJ 05100 12325
Drop: 28.5m (converted to OSGM15)
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The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Mynydd Bach |
Myrddyn Phillips (February 2018)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Cromwell Hill (SJ 182 048) - 28th significant name change
Survey post for Cromwell Hill
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height and drop of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 7th January 2018.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and its re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Carnedd Wen range of hills which are situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and the hill is positioned between the A 458 road to its north and the A 483 road to its south-east, and has the town of Y Trallwng (Welshpool) to its north-east.
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Cromwell Hill (SJ 182 048) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name Pen-y-parc. Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill the name of Pen-y-parc that appears on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps is that for the old farm situated just below this hill, and not to the hill itself.
This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill the name of Cromwell Hill was derived from local enquiry.
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Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Cromwell Hill and this was derived from local enquiry.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Carnedd Wen
Name: Cromwell Hill
Previously Listed Name: Pen-y-parc
Summit Height: 343.2m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 136
Summit Grid Reference: SJ 18222 04885
Drop: 39.3m (converted to OSGM15)
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The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Cromwell Hill |
Myrddyn Phillips (February 2018)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Carneddau (SO 076 543) - 27th significant name change
Survey post for Carneddau
Hill Reclassifications post for Carneddau
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 6th October 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant consisting of all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and its re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Fforest Glud range of hills which are situated in the eastern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and the hill is positioned between the town of Llanfair-ym-Muallt (Builth Wells) to the south-west and the small community of Hundred House to the east.
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Carneddau (SO 076 543) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the invented name of Moel Cilberllan, with an accompanying note stating Name from buildings to the East. During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was four local farmers who told me that the land where this hill is situated is a part of the Carneddau, and this is substantiated by historical and contemporary Ordnance Survey maps.
Moel Cilberllan | 376m | SO076543 | 147 | 200 | Name from buildings to the East |
The first local farmer I asked about this hill and its name was Sandy Price who farms from Upper Pentre which is below the hill to its south, Sandy told me that this hill is a part of the Carneddau (pronouncing it as the Car-neth-ee) hill and that he had never heard separate names for any of the hills that I was describing. This is where the mind of a hill bagger is distinctly different to that of a farmer / grazer, as Sandy thought of all this land as one hill, whist a hill bagger would distinguish the land taking in the Carneddau hill as four separate P30s. Sandy suggested I visit Colin Wheel who farms from Ddole. I then visited Rhiwlas; the farm above Upper Pentre, Sandy’s neighbour was out early in the morning and smiled as I huffed and puffed up the steep lane, he also confirmed that the hill is a part of the Carneddau hill. Later in the day after I’d visited the various P30s taking in the Carneddau hill I visited Colin Wheel and his brother Jim. Colin is aged 71 and Jim 85 and both were doing work on their farm, Colin on a quad bike and Jim tending to a tractor. They have farmed this area all of their lives and were a delight to speak with, with smiles and hospitality, and also the same information given me earlier in the day, the hill is known as the Carneddau and this takes in all of the land that today is designated open access land and some of the enclosed land on its eastern side, and that there are no separate names for any of the P30s, as in a farmers / grazers mind they are a part of the one hill, which is known as the Carneddau.
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Colin and Jim Wheel, a delight to meet and speak with |
This information is substantiated by a number of historical maps, some of which are presented below.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Fforest Glud
Name: Carneddau
Previously Listed Name: Moel Cilberllan
Summit Height: 375.0m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 147
Summit Grid Reference: SO 07652 54311
Drop: 30.3m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (December 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Y Graig (SO 133 590) - 26th significant name change
Survey post for Y Graig
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 3rd October 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and the Introduction to the list and its re-naming and publication history was published on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Fforest Glud range of hills which are situated in the eastern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and the hill is positioned between the town of Llandrindod (Llandrindod Wells) to its west north-west and the small community of Hundred House to its south south-west.
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Y Graig (SO 133 590) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name Blaen Edw Bank, this name appears on Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer maps to the north-east of this hill’s summit and comprises land associated with the buildings named Blaen Edw (SO 14643 59322) on Ordnance Survey maps.
During my early hill listing I paid little regard to name placement on a map, or the meaning of names and to what feature the name was appropriately applied to and used many names that seemingly applied to a hill and whose placement was nearest the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. Therefore I prioritised names for listing purposes that I now understand are inappropriate. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was one of the local farmers whose family has lived in this area for over 100 years who gave the name of The Graig for this hill.
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Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 historical map |
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Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map |
The local farmer is Keith Williams who farms from Hendy, which is situated directly below the hill to its south-west. Keith is aged 50 with his family moving to this farm in 1902; he told me that the hill is a part of the land of Graig, which is the farm next along from Hendy and nearer to and directly below the hill to its south-west. I met Keith whilst surveying the bwlch of Bwlchau Bank and he had stopped his vehicle on the narrow lane that crosses the bwlch to ask what I was doing, we chatted for a number of minutes and he was good enough to give me his time and also gave me the name of Bwlchau Bank, whose summit I hoped to visit before making my way to the top of Y Graig.
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Y Graig and this name was derived from local enquiry.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Fforest Glud
Name: Y Graig
Previously Listed Name: Blaen Edw Bank
Summit Height: 371.5m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 148
Summit Grid Reference: SO 13372 59020
Drop: c 60m
Myrddyn Phillips (December 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Bwlchau Bank (SO 117 587) - 25th significant name change
Survey post for Bwlchau Bank
Hill Reclassifications post for Bwlchau Bank
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 3rd October 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant, with the criteria to this sub list being all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Fforest Glud range, this group of hills are situated in the eastern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and the hill is positioned between the town of Llandrindod (Llandrindod Wells) to its west north-west and the small community of Hundred House to its south.
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Bwlchau Bank (SO 117 587) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the invented name of Moel Bwlchau, with an accompanying note stating Name from buildings to the South. During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was one of the local farmers whose family has lived in this area for over 100 years who gave the name of Bwlchau Bank.
Moel Bwlchau | 348m | SO118588 | 148 | 200 | Name from buildings to the South |
The local farmer is Keith Williams who farms from Hendy, which is situated directly below the hill to its east. Keith is aged 50 with his family moving to this farm in 1902; he told me that the hill is a part of the land of Bwlchau, which is the farm directly below the hill to its south. I met Keith whilst surveying the bwlch of this hill as he had stopped his vehicle on the narrow lane that crosses the bwlch to ask what I was doing, we chatted for a number of minutes and he was good enough to give me his time and also gave me another name for a hill that is unnamed on Ordnance Survey maps and one which I was heading to after visiting Bwlchau Bank.
Therefore the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Bwlchau Bank and this name was derived from local enquiry.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Fforest Glud
Name: Bwlchau Bank
Previously Listed Name: Moel Bwlchau
Summit Height: 348.3m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 148
Summit Grid Reference: SO 11770 58788
Drop: 31.6m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (December 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Gilwern Hill (SO 096 568) - 24th significant name change
Survey post for Gilwern Hill
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height and drop of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 6th September 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Fforest Glud range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and the hill is positioned between the two small communities of Frank’s Bridge to the east south-east and Llansanffraid-yn-Elfael (Llansantffraed-in-Elwel) towards the south.
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Gilwern Hill (SO 096 568) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the partly invented name of Moel Camnant, with an accompanying note stating Name from buildings to the South. During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found. This hill is one such example, as making local enquiries and substantiating these details for land area via contemporary and historical Ordnance Survey maps and the Tithe map has resulted in this hill now being listed by the name of Gilwern Hill.
Moel Camnant | 383m | SO097568 | 147 | 200 | Name from buildings to the South |
When visiting this and adjacent hills I made a number of place-name enquiries, the first being with the person who kindly advised I park beside the sawmill in a place allocated for their employees, this person worked at the sawmill and told me that this hill is known as Gilwern Hill and is a part of land that is known by the same name, he then suggested that I visit the head of the grazers association who lives at Upper House. During my walk I met Philip Dyke who was out on his quad bike, Philip is aged 62 and farms from Gwernfach having lived there for 57 years, with his family having lived in this area for hundreds of years, and he confirmed the name of the land this hill is situated on as Gilwern Hill. I later called at Upper House and met the wife of the head of the grazers association and she also told me that this hill is a part of Gilwern Hill, with the whole area of what is now open access land being known by this name.
Since publication of these P30 lists on Geoff Crowder’s website there have been a number of Ordnance Survey maps made available online, some of these are historical such as the series of Six-Inch maps on the National Library of Scotland website, whilst others are current and digitally updated such as the enlarged map hosted on the Geograph website. One of the most important of these maps for the placement of place-names is the Ordnance Survey historical 1:25,000 map, and this map confirms that the land area of Gilwern Hill is not just applicable to the 440.7m (converted to OSGM15) high hill at SO 09895 58290 as contemporary 1:25,000 Explorer maps would have us believe.
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Extract from the Ordnance Survey historical 1:25,000 map |
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Extract from the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 map |
Part of the land area applicable to Gilwern Hill is also evidenced on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps with the boundary of designated open access land; this is shown in the extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map below.
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Extract from the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map showing the boundary of designated open access land |
However, for historical reference to the land area of what was Common Land and which now forms a part of the designated open access land it is the Tithe map that should be consulted.
The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
The land where the summit of this hill is situated is not a part of enclosed land and therefore it is not designated a number that can be cross referenced in the apportionments. This hill is a part of a large area of land which is named as Mountain in Llansaintfaed Elvel Parish on the Tithe map; this area of land is the precursor of what is now designated open access land. The details on the Tithe map appear in the county named as Radnor and in the parish of Llansanffraid yn Elfael.
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Extract from the Tithe map |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Gilwern Hill, and this was derived from local enquiry with the land area known by this name being substantiated by contemporary and historical Ordnance Survey maps and the Tithe map.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Fforest Glud
Name: Gilwern Hill
Previously Listed Name: Moel Camnant
Summit Height: 384.6m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 147
Summit Grid Reference: SO 09676 56836
Drop: 59.1m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (November 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Cwm Bank (SO 107 570) - 23rd significant name change
Survey post for Cwm Bank
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height and drop of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 6th September 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant – These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Fforest Glud range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and the hill is positioned between the two small communities of Frank’s Bridge to the east and Llansanffraid-yn-Elfael (Llansantffraed-in-Elwel) to the south south-west.
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Cwm Bank (SO 107 570) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the partly invented name of Moel Gwern, with an accompanying note stating Name from buildings to the South-West. During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them or as in this instance, just use part of the name of the farm that is situated to the south-west of the hill’s summit. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and this is one such example, and as the hill consists of bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.
Moel Gwern | 355m | SO108571 | 148 | 200 | Name from buildings to the South-West |
The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 97 on the Tithe map |
The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 97 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Bank on the Tithe map and described as Pasture and Rough, importantly the land is that adjoined to the farm of Cwm, in affect it is the Bank of Cwm, or simply put; Cwm Bank; the details on the Tithe map appear in the county named as Radnor and in the parish of Betws Diserth.
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When cross referenced in the apportionments the enclosed land is named Bank and is adjoined to Cwm |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Cwm Bank, and this was derived from the Tithe map.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Fforest Glud
Name: Cwm Bank
Previously Listed Name: Moel Gwern
Summit Height: 354.4m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 148
Summit Grid Reference: SO 10798 57035
Drop: 52.4m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (November 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Bryn-glas Bank (SO 103 559) - 22nd significant name change
Survey post for Bryn-glas Bank
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that was surveyed for potential Y Trichant status, with the summit height and lowest summit of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 6th September 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant - These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Fforest Glud range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and the hill is positioned between the two small communities of Frank’s Bridge to the east and Llansanffraid-yn-Elfael (Llansantffraed-in-Elwel) to the south south-west.
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Bryn-glas Bank (SO 103 559) on the right, with Gwernhwsmon Bank (SO 105 559) on the left |
The summit is adjoined to a higher summit, both of which can be construed as being a part of the same hill, with a 356m and 357m map height respectively. The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Hirllwyn Bank. Although the lower summit does not have sufficient prominence to qualify even for Sub-Twmpau status it is worthwhile documenting the name of it.
Hirllwyn Bank | 357m | SO105559 | 148 | 200 | Trig pillar |
During my early hill listing I paid little regard to name placement on a map, or the meaning of names and to what feature the name was appropriately applied to and used many names that seemingly applied to a hill and whose placement was nearest the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. Therefore I prioritised names for listing purposes that I now understand are inappropriate. This hill is such an example, and as both summits consist of bounded land the details for each were examined on the Tithe map.
The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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The enclosed land where the lower summit of this hill is situated is given the number 252 on the Tithe map |
The enclosed land where the lower summit of this hill is situated is given the number 252 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Bank on the Tithe map and described as Pasture, importantly the land is that adjoined to the farm of Bryn-glas, in affect it is the Bank of Bryn-glas, or simply put; Bryn-glas Bank; the details on the Tithe map appear in the county named as Radnor and in the parish of Llansanffraid-yn-Elfael.
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When cross referenced in the apportionments the enclosed land is named Bank and is adjoined to Brynglas |
When visiting this hill and its near neighbours I made several place-name enquiries, one of which was with Philip Dyke who was out on his quad bike on a field directly below this hill’s summit. Philip is aged 62 and farms from Gwernfach having lived there for 57 years, with his family having lived in this area for hundreds of years, and he confirmed that the land where the lower summit is situated is known as Bryn-glas Bank, and the land of the higher summit is known as Gwernhwsmon Bank which also confirms information from the Tithe map.
Therefore, if this summit were higher than Gwernhwsmon Bank (357.3m [converted to OSGM15] at SO 10538 55967) it would be listed as Bryn-glas Bank in the Y Trichant, and this name was derived from the Tithe map and also confirmed locally.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Fforest Glud
Name: Bryn-glas Bank
Previously Listed Name: (higher summit previously listed as) Hirllwyn Bank
Summit Height: 354.3m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 148
Summit Grid Reference: SO 10338 55952
Drop: c 7m
Myrddyn Phillips (October 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Gwernhwsmon Bank (SO 105 559) - 21st significant name change
Survey post for Gwernhwsmon Bank
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, drop and highest summit of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 6th September 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant - These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Fforest Glud range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and the hill is positioned between the two small communities of Frank’s Bridge to the east and Llansanffraid-yn-Elfael (Llansantffraed-in-Elwel) to the south south-west.
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Gwernhwsmon Bank (SO 105 559) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Hirllwyn Bank. During my early hill listing I paid little regard to name placement on a map, or the meaning of names and to what feature the name was appropriately applied to and used many names that seemingly applied to a hill and whose placement was nearest the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. Therefore I prioritised names for listing purposes that I now understand are inappropriate. This hill is one such example, and as it consists of bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.
Hirllwyn Bank | 357m | SO105559 | 148 | 200 | Trig pillar |
The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 251 on the Tithe map |
The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 251 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Bank on the Tithe map and described as Pasture, importantly the land is that adjoined to the farm of Gwernhwsmon, in affect it is the Bank of Gwernhwsmon, or simply put; Gwernhwsmon Bank; the details on the Tithe map appear in the county named as Radnor and in the parish of Llansanffraid-yn-Elfael.
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When cross referenced in the apportionments the enclosed land is named Bank and is adjoined to Wernhusmon [sic] |
When visiting this hill and its near neighbours I made several place-name enquiries, one of which was with Philip Dyke who was out on his quad bike on a field directly below this hill’s summit. Philip is aged 62 and farms from Gwernfach having lived there for 57 years, with his family having lived in this area for hundreds of years, and he confirmed this hill’s name as Gwernhwsmon Bank, and that of its adjacent 354.3m (converted to OSGM15, 356m map height) summit as Bryn-glas Bank which also confirms information from the Tithe map.
Therefore, the hill is now listed as Gwernhwsmon Bank in the Y Trichant, and this name was derived from the Tithe map and also confirmed locally.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Fforest Glud
Name: Gwernhwsmon Bank
Previously Listed Name: Hirllwyn Bank
Summit Height: 357.3m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 148
Summit Grid Reference: SO 10538 55967
Drop: 49.7m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (October 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Teisen Priodas (SN 820 108) - 20th significant name change
Survey post for Teisen Priodas
Hill Reclassifications post for Teisen Priodas
Significant Height Revisions post for Teisen Priodas
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 13th June 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant - These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Fforest Fawr range, this group of hills is situated in the north-western part of South Wales (Region C, Sub-Region C2), and it is positioned above the small community of Abercraf (Abercrave) to the north and Blaendulais (Seven Sisters) to the south.
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Teisen Priodas (SN 820 108) |
The hill forms a part of the ridge known as Mynydd y Drum, this ridge has been extensively mined in its north-eastern section with the remaining highest natural summit positioned at SN 80718 09753 and listed as a 200m Sub-Twmpau under the name of Mynydd y Drum.
The hill is a part of the Nant Helen Opencast Mine and consists of landscaped waste spoil and its detection was dependent upon LIDAR data analysed by Kevin McGovern and then independently by Aled Williams and also by George Gradwell. Prior to analysis of LIDAR data the hill had not appeared in any list, due to these analyses it was subsequently included in the Y Trichant.
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Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map with the expended ridge name of Mynydd y Drum and the extent of the Nant Helen Opencast Mine |
When this hill was listed as a Trichant it appeared under the name of the extended ridge it is a part of; Mynydd y Drum, however after surveying it with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 I had the opportunity to discuss its name with workers at the Nant Helen Opencast Mine.
After visiting this hill I entered the workings of the Nant Helen Opencast Mine hoping to visit the adjacent north-easterly P30 and also make place-name enquiries, I was approached by two mine employees in separate vehicles, after apologising for being where I was I asked them about the name of the two new P30s, each of which is the result of mine spoil, both knew the higher hill as Teisen Priodas, this is translated into English as the wedding cake, an apt name as the hill consists of three tiers and is relatively flat on top.
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Teisen Priodas, with this name being prioritised over that of Mynydd y Drum as the former is a locally known name for an individual hill and the latter is the name given to the extended ridge that now consists of three individual hills; two of them being P30s and one being a sub P30.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Fforest Fawr
Name: Teisen Priodas
Previously Listed Name: Mynydd y Drum
Summit Height: 337.9m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 160
Summit Grid Reference: SN 82013 10833
Drop: 93.3m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (August 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Ffridd Fawr (SJ 166 274) - 19th significant name change
Survey post for Ffridd Fawr
Hill Reclassifications post for Ffridd Fawr
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 7th June 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant - These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the Sub-Trichant with these being all Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 20m and more and below 30m of drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is a part of the Y Berwyn range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and is positioned above the small community of Moelfre which is to the east north-east of the hill, and between Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant to the west south-west and Llansilin towards the east.
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Ffridd Fawr (SJ 166 274) |
The hill did not appear in the sub list adjoined to the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, when this sub list was standardised and drop values added the hill was then listed with c 22m of drop.
Prior to the sub list being standardised and drop values added the hill was not classified as it had not appeared in any known listing of hills. Therefore, although there is no change in this hill’s listed name it is worth categorising under the heading of Significant Name Changes as the name this hill is now listed by comes from local enquiry.
When visiting the summit of the hill I was fortunate to meet the local farmer; Edgar Williams, who farms from Bronheulog which is situated towards the east of the hill. Edgar is aged 48 and comes from Pen-y-bont-fawr with Bronheulog being his wife’s family home. When asked the name of the hill Edgar had no hesitation in telling me it was known as Ffridd Fawr, when translated this can mean the large upland pasture.
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Edgar Williams |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Ffridd Fawr and this name was derived from local enquiry.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Y Berwyn
Name: Ffridd Fawr
Previously Listed Name: Previously not classified
Summit Height: 335.1m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 125
Summit Grid Reference: SJ 16688 27439
Drop: 22.7m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (July 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Comins (SJ 174 282) - 18th significant name change
Survey post for the Comins
Hill Reclassifications post for the Comins
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 7th June 2017 and subsequent LIDAR analysis.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant - These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is a part of the Y Berwyn range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and it is positioned above the small community of Llansilin which is to the east of the hill.
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Comins (SJ 174 282) with Gurn Moelfre behind |
The hill appeared in the sub list adjoined to the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the partly invented name of Pen-y-Moelfre, with an accompanying note stating; Name from village to the East.
Pen-y-Moelfre | 376m | SJ175282 | 125 | 255 | Name from village to the East |
During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was one of the local farmers who has lived under the hill all of his life, who gave the name of the Comins.
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Emyr Evans |
The local farmer is Emyr Evans who farms from Cefn-y-braich which is situated towards the east south-east of the hill. Emyr is now aged 81 and has lived locally for all of his life; he told me that the hill is a part of the land of Lloran Isaf which is the next farm along from Cefn-y-braich and nearer to the hill. Emyr was out cutting thistles and we chatted at length, it turns out that Emyr went to school with an uncle of one of my lifelong friends and before leaving he told me that there used to be a flagpole on top of the hill.
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is the Comins and this was derived from local enquiry.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Y Berwyn
Name: Comins
Previously Listed Name: Pen-y-Moelfre
Summit Height: 376.1m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 125
Summit Grid Reference: SJ 17476 28210
Drop: 34.8m
Myrddyn Phillips (July 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Foel Fawr (SJ 130 146) - 17th significant name change
Survey post for Foel Fawr
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the summit height and drop of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 4th May 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant - These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is a part of the Y Berwyn range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and is positioned above the small community of Meifod which is towards the south-east of the hill.
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Foel Fawr (SJ 130 146) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the partly invented name of Pen Rhosfawr Uchaf, with an accompanying note stating; Name from buildings to the North-East. During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was the Tithe map where the name Foel Fawr was derived.
Pen Rhosfawr Uchaf | 311m | SJ131147 | 125 | 239 | Name from buildings to the North-East |
The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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Accessing information on the Tithe map is simplified with the use of a split screen enabling the boundary of enclosed land to be compared |
The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 234 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Foel Fawr on the Tithe map; it appears in the county named as Montgomery and in the parish of Meifod.
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When cross referenced in the apportionments the enclosed land is named as Foel Fawr |
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Foel Fawr and this was derived from the Tithe map.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Y Berwyn
Name: Foel Fawr
Previously Listed Name: Pen Rhosfawr Uchaf
Summit Height: 309.5m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 125
Summit Grid Reference: SJ 13095 14685
Drop: 54.4m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (June 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Craignant Hill (SJ 119 165) - 16th significant name change
Survey post for Craignant Hill
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the height, drop, highest summit and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 6th April 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant - These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is a part of the Y Berwyn range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and is positioned above the town of Llanfyllin to the north-east and the village of Meifod to the south-east.
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Craignant Hill (SJ 119 165) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the partly invented name of Pen Craignant-mawr, with an accompanying note stating; Name from buildings to the North.
Pen Craignant-mawr
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329m
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125
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239
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Included by contour configuration. Name from buildings to the North
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During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was the local farmer who works the land where the summit of this hill is situated who gave the name of Craignant Hill.
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John Evans on the right with Aled Watkins |
The local farmer is John Evans who farms from Tyncelyn which is situated towards the south-west of the hill. John farms the land that the hill is a part of and when I met him he was shepherding sheep up the country lane to their field, once the sheep were penned in we talked about the hill which was adjacent to us. John explained that although he now farms this land the hill is still known by the name of Craignant Hill, through its past association with Craignant-mawr; which is a farm to the immediate north of the hill. I asked if he had ever heard a separate name for the other top (the hill has two distinct summits, which are close to one another and given the same map height and which the Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey separated), he said no, they are both known by the same name; Craignant Hill.
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Craignant Hill and this was derived from local enquiry.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Y Berwyn
Name: Craignant Hill
Previously Listed Name: Pen Craignant-mawr
Summit Height: 329.5m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 125
Summit Grid Reference: SJ 11926 16590
Drop: 30.3m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (May 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Cefn Digoll (SJ 275 084) - 15th significant name change
Survey post for Cefn Digoll
There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant, with the height, drop and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 20th March 2017.
The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:
Y Trichant - These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.
The hill is adjoined to the Cefn Digoll range, this group of hills is situated in the north-eastern part of Mid and West Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned above the A 458 road and the village of Trewern to its north and the town of Y Trallwng (Welshpool) to its west.
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Cefn Digoll (SJ 275 084) |
The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the partly invented name Oak Plantation Top, with an accompanying note stating; Name from wood to the North-West. During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day. My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them and in this instance, use the name of a near wood and add the word Top. This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was knowledge of the local area coupled with that from making enquiries with local farmers that confirmed the name this hill is known as.
Oak Plantation Top | 381m | SJ275084 | 126 | 216 | Name from wood to the North-West |
When I visited the hill I met Karen and Brian Morris who farm from Longmountain Farm, whose land the summit of this hill is situated on. I had already made enquiries with Brian’s brother who farms the lower fields adjoined to this hill, and they all confirmed that they know this hill as being a part of the Long Mountain. The name is given as Cefn Digoll in the listing of Y Trichant as it is appropriate to list by the Welsh form of the name. Karen and Brian explained that they refer to a number of high fields on their farm by names, including the Mast Field, Behind the School, Top of the Gallop, The Patch and the Pond Field, with the high point of the hill being situated in the field they refer to as Behind the School. The school in this instance is occasionally used for schooling horses.
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Karen and Brian Morris of Longmountain Farm |
Prior to visiting this hill I had studied the Tithe map. The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act. This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods. The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land. This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.
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The enclosed land where the summit of the hill is situated is given the number 69A on the Tithe map |
The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 69A on the Tithe map, with the field as it is today having consisted of two parts at the time of the Tithe, with the other part being given the number 69, these numbers can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land. The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Enclosure with the other part of the field named as Part of Enclosure on the Tithe map; it appears in the county named as Montgomery and in the parish of Buttington. However, as the term Enclosure is generic it is inappropriate to use this word for the name of a hill when listing.
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When cross referenced in the apportionments the enclosed land is given a generic term of Inclosure |
Before thanking Karen and Brian for their time, they suggested that I visit Keith Davies who still occasionally farms and now lives lower on the hill next to the Hope Lane. Keith grew up on the western side of the hill which his father farmed, with The Mill and Cletterwood farms being mentioned. Keith confirmed that he had never heard a separate name being given to this hill and knows it as the Long Mountain (the whole of Cefn Digoll [Long Mountain in English] takes in the 408.3m [converted to OSGM15] summit at SJ 264 058 as well as the 381.5m [converted to OSGM15] summit at SJ 275 084).
As I talked with Keith he pointed through his living room window to a slightly raised point and told me that it is known as the Cap of Trewern, this is situated at approximately SJ 26663 08675 and looked as if it consists of rougher ground with an occasional gorse bush on it as opposed to the manicured green grazing fields adjoined to it. He also told me that the land leading up to the forest boundary is known as The Pinnacle, this land is placed at approximately SJ 264 078.
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Keith Davies with the northern lands of Cefn Digoll in the background |
We then concentrated on the land that takes in the hill adjoined to the Longmountain Farm, and Keith explained that until 1920 the upper part of this land was a holding adjoined to Buttington Old Hall, (this holding takes in the land between SJ 28528 08667, SJ 28088 09012, SJ 26883 08067 and SJ 27813 07794) with this land being added to the holdings of the Hall at a later date compared to their other lands, and it was known as the Bytak.
The meaning of the word Bytak is given below and my thanks to Aled Williams for supplying the following details:
beitac, beutac
[bnth. S. taf. by-tack]
Tyddyn neu fferm lle nad yw’r tenant yn byw, a gymerir yn ychwanegol at fferm fwy:
By-tack (smallholding or farm where the tenant does not live, taken in addition to a larger farm.
1953 I. Ff. Elis: CC 64, Yr oedd Tyddyn Argain yn llawer rhy werthfawr fel beitac i bori bustych tewion.
Ar lafar, ‘Beutac y gelwir tyddyn neu fferm a gymerir at un arall’, B i. 194 (sir Drefn.); ‘Beutac’ ‘a by-take, fferm delir ei thir gan amaethwr fferm arall’, Cymruli. 52 (dwyrain sir Drefn.)
Cf. 1873 Mont Coll 245, Bytak, a small farm, generally held with a larger one by the same tenant. The bytak usually consists of a few acres of ground with a hovel thereon. The word is common in Welsh-speaking counties.
The Elis reference says that Beutac is used in eastern Montgomeryshire. The word is a borrowing from English - so both spellings of the word would be applicable to Cefn Digoll.
As the land known as the Bytak has been adjoined to Longmountain Farm since 1920, it is no longer referred to by this name as this term applied to the land prior to this date and not to the land at the present date.
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Cefn Digoll, as it forms a part of the extended hill known as the Long Mountain, with the protocol of the Welsh name taking precedence for listing purposes, and with the caveat that the current farmers know the field where the summit of the hill is situated as Behind the School, and that the land taking in the whole of the summit area of this hill was known up until 1920 as the Bytak.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Cefn Digoll
Name: Cefn Digoll
Previously Listed Name: Oak Plantation Top
Summit Height: 381.5m (converted to OSGM15)
OS 1:50,000 map: 126
Summit Grid Reference: SJ 27541 08477
Drop: 38.4m (converted to OSGM15)
Myrddyn Phillips (April 2017)
Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - Y Trichant
Cefn y Coed (SO 211 934) - 14th significant name change
Survey post for Cefn y Coed
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