Coed Cae Saer (SN 736 975)
There has been a Significant Height Revision to a hill that is listed in the 100m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips.
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| LIDAR image of Coed Cae Saer (SN 736 975) |
The criteria for the list that this height revision applies
to are:
100m Twmpau
– Welsh hills at or above
100m and below 200m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 100m
Sub-Twmpau with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or
above 100m and below 200m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of
drop. The list is authored by Myrddyn
Phillips, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward.
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| 100m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
The name the hill is listed by is Coed Cae Saer,
and it is adjoined to the Banc Llechwedd Mawr group of
hills, which are situated in the north-western
part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with minor roads to its north-west, north-east
and south, and the A487 road farther to its north-west, and has the town of Machynlleth
towards the north north-east.
After the original 100m height band of Welsh P30 hills published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, were standardised and
interpolated heights and drop values also included, this hill was listed with
an estimated c 38m of drop, based on an estimated c 134m summit height and an
estimated c 96m bwlch height, with both heights based on 10m contouring that
appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
However, it was not until LIDAR became available
that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed. The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging)
technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for
much of England and Wales.
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| LIDAR summit image of Coed Cae Saer (SN 736 975) |
The summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 139.9m
and is positioned at SN 73665 97584, and this comes within the parameters of
the Significant Height Revisions used within this page heading, these
parameters are:
The term Significant Height Revisions applies to
any listed hill whose interpolated height and Ordnance Survey, Harvey or other
interactive map summit spot height has a 2m or more discrepancy when compared
to the survey result produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 or analysis of data
produced via LIDAR. Also included are
hills whose summit map data is missing an uppermost ring contour when compared
with the data produced by the Trimble or by LIDAR analysis.
Therefore, the new listed summit height of this
hill is 139.9m and this was derived from LIDAR analysis, this is 5.9m higher
than the previously listed summit height which was estimated from interpolation
of the uppermost 130m ring contour that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000
Explorer map.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Banc Llechwedd Mawr
Name: Coed Cae Saer
OS 1:50,000 map: 135
Summit Height (New Height): 139.9m (LIDAR)
Summit Grid Reference: SN 73665 97584 (LIDAR)
Bwlch Height: 93.8m (LIDAR)
Bwlch Grid Reference: SN 73495 97695 (LIDAR)
Drop: 46.1m (LIDAR)
Myrddyn Phillips (June
2025)
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