200m Twmpau – Hill Reclassifications
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| LIDAR image of Moel Gallt y Cwm (SS 811 909) |
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| The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map |
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| Pastures (SJ 080 032) |
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| The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| LIDAR image of Pastures |
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| The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of the Pastures |
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| Square Field (SJ 070 031) |
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| Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips |
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| The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| LIDAR image of Square Field (SJ 070 031) |
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| The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Square Field |
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| Cae Top (SJ 061 016) |
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| The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| Extract from the Magic Maps website |
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| LIDAR image of Cae Top |
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| The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Cae Top |
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| The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Historical 1:25,000 map |
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| Extract from the OS Maps website |
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| Cae Clofar Bach (SJ 069 007) |
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| The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| LIDAR image of Cae Clofar Bach |
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| The Trimnle GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Cae Clofar Bach |
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| Crasty Frain (SO 109 983) |
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| The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
The name the hill is now listed by is Crasty Frain and this was derived from the Tithe map, and it is adjoined to the Carnedd Wen group of hills which are situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and it is positioned with a minor road to its north and the B4389 road to its south-west, and has the village of Tregynon towards the west north-west.
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| LIDAR image of Crasty Frain |
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| The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Crasty Frain |
Church Hill Common (SO 51785 10565 & SO 51788 10566) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (28th reclassification)
Significant Name Changes post for Church Hill Common
Summit Relocations post for Church Hill Common
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| LIDAR image of Church Hill Common (SO 517 105) |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| LIDAR image of Church Hill Common |
Pt. 277.3m (ST 485 990) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (27th reclassification)
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| LIDAR image of Pt. 277.3m (ST 485 990) |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
Coed y Bwnydd (SO 366 069) – 100m Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (26th reclassification)
Significant Name Changes post for Coed y Bwnydd
Summit Relocations post for Coed y Bwnydd
Significant Height Revisions post for Coed y Bwnydd
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| LIDAR image of Coed y Bwnydd (SO 366 069) |
The criteria for the two listings that this reclassification applies to are:
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| 100m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
200m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 200m Sub-Twmpau with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.
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| 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
The name the hill is listed by is Coed y Bwnydd and it is adjoined to the Mynyddoedd Duon group of hills which are situated in the eastern part of South Wales (Region C, Sub-Region C3), and it is positioned with the Afon Wysg (River Usk) and the B4598 road to its west, the A40 road to its north and the A449 road to its east, and has the village of Raglan towards the east north-east and the town of Brynbuga (Usk) towards the south south-east.
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
The details for this hill were re-assessed when the Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website and which is entitled the Interactive Coverage Map became available online. This mapping had many spot heights not on other publicly available Ordnance Survey maps and gives a second 196m spot height on the summit area of this hill and positioned at SO 367 069.
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| Extract from the Magic Maps website |
Penmaen Bach (SH 750 777) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (25th reclassification)
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| Penmaen Bach (SH 750 777) |
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| The Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website which is entitled the Interactive Coverage Map |
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| LIDAR image of Penmaen Bach |
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| The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Penmaen Bach |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Mountain Park (SN 171 120) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (24th reclassification)
Survey post for Mountain Park
Significant Name Changes post for Mountain Park
There has been confirmation of an addition to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis and a subsequent summit survey using the Trimble GeoXH 6000 conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| LIDAR image of the summit of Mountain Park |
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| LIDAR image of the bwlch of Mountain Park |
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| LIDAR image of Mountain Park |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Foel Tyddyn y Berllan (SH 634 051) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (23rd reclassification)
Survey post for Foel Tyddyn y Berllan
Significant Name Changes post for Foel Tyddyn y Berllan
There has been a reclassification to the listing of 200m Twmpau due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips and subsequently confirmed via a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 which took place on the 14.05.18, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| Foel Tyddyn y Berllan (SH 634 051) |
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| LIDAR image of Foel Tyddyn y Berllan |
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| The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Foel Tyddyn y Berllan |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Foel (SH 632 045) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (22nd reclassification)
Survey post for Foel
Significant Name Changes post for Foel
There has been a reclassification to the listing of 200m Twmpau due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips and subsequently confirmed via a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 which took place on the 14.05.18, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| Foel (SH 632 045) |
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| LIDAR image of Foel |
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| The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Foel |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Pt. 232.1m (SH 675 157) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (21st reclassification)
There has been an addition to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| LIDAR image of Pt. 232.1m |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Pt. 252.3m (SH 697 167) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (20th reclassification)
There has been an addition to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| LIDAR image of Pt. 252.3m |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Pt. 254.9m (SH 690 175) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (19th reclassification)
There has been confirmation of an addition to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Tŵr Glas (SH 672 164) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (18th reclassification)
There has been confirmation of a reclassification to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| LIDAR image of Tŵr Glas |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Gribin (SH 675 168) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (17th reclassification)
There has been confirmation of a reclassification to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| LIDAR image of Gribin |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Pt. 296.1m (SH 694 169) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (16th reclassification)
There has been confirmation of an addition to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| LIDAR image of Pt. 296.1m |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Pt. 296.6m (SH 693 171) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (15th reclassification)
There has been confirmation of an addition to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Craig y Castell (SH 694 173) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (14th reclassification)
There has been confirmation of a reclassification to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website |
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| LIDAR image of Craig y Castell |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
There has been confirmation of a reclassification to the 200m Twmpau list due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips and subsequently confirmed via a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000, with the criteria for this list being:
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| Craig y Merwydd (SH 644 134) |
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps |
As the upper section of the hill is a part of designated open access land an ascent from most directions is feasible, with a minor road to its immediate south giving the easiest option.
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| LIDAR image of Craig y Merwydd |
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| The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Craig y Merwydd |
For details on the survey of Craig y Merwydd
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Gwastad Meirionydd (SH 589 071) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (12th reclassification)
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
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| LIDAR image of Gwastad Meirionydd |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Ffridd Tyddyn Mawr (SH 654 140) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (11th reclassification)
Survey post for Ffridd Tyddyn Mawr
Significant Name Changes post for Ffridd Tyddyn Mawr
The criteria for this listing are:
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| Ffridd Tyddyn Mawr (SO 654 140) now confirmed as a 200m Sub-Twmpau addition |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Erw Penlan (SO 045 495) – 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (10th reclassification)
Survey post for Erw Penlan
Significant Name Changes post for Erw Penlan
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| Erw Penlan (SO 045 495) now confirmed as a 200m Sub-Twmpau addition |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Y Pincin (SH 723 581) – 200m Twmpau addition (9th reclassification)
Survey post for Y Pincin
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| Y Pincin (SH 723 581) has now been confirmed as a 200m Twmpau by a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Dinas Mawr (SH 808 539) – 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (8th reclassification)
Survey post for Dinas Mawr
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| Dinas Mawr (SH 808 539) this hill's reclassification to 200m Twmpau status is now confirmed by a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Pen y Gaer (SO 139 976) – 200m Twmpau reclassified to Trichant (7th reclassification)
Survey post for Pen y Gaer
Bwlch Grid Reference: SO 13170 99222
Drop: 85.2m
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| Pen y Gaer (SO 139 976) reclassified from a 200m Twmpau to a Trichant |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Moelfryn (SH 568 511) – 200m Twmpau reclassified to 200m Sub-Twmpau (6th reclassification)
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| LIDAR image of Moelfryn (SH 568 511) |
The criteria for the list that this reclassification applies to are:
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| 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
The name the hill is now listed by is Moelfryn, and it is adjoined to the Moel Hebog group of hills, which are situated in the north-western part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A1), and it is positioned with a the B4418 road to its north-west and the A4085 road to its east, and the A488 road to its south-east, and has the village of Beddgelert towards the south south-east.
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map |
After the sub list was standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included the details for this hill were re-evaluated and it was listed with an estimated c 30m of drop, based on the 277m summit spot height and an estimated c 247m bwlch height, based on interpolation of 10m contouring between 240m - 250m.
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
Since the original publication of the Welsh P30 lists on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website there have been a number of maps made available online. Some of these are historic such as the series of Six-Inch maps on the National Library of Scotland website. Whilst others were digitally updated such as the Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website and which was entitled the Interactive Coverage Map, whilst others are current and digitally updated such as the interactive mapping on the Magic Maps and WalkLakes websites.
The Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps formed the base map Ordnance Survey used for many decades leading to the production of the 1:10,000 Series of maps, both have now been superseded by the digitised Master Map. The Six-Inch maps suggest the contemporary 277m spot height may be erroneous as this summit is immersed in conifer plantation and the only spot height preceding it that has appeared on Ordnance Survey maps is the imperial height of 901ft (274.6m) which originated on the Six-Inch series. Therefore, there seems no evidence to support how a spot height has changed by 2.4m when the summit is immersed in trees.
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps |
However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed. The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales.
Therefore, the reclassification of this hill from 200m Twmpau status is due to LIDAR analysis, resulting in a 274.7m summit height and a 246.1m bwlch height, with these values giving this hill 28.6m of drop, which is sufficient for it to be classified as a 200m Sub-Twmpau.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Moel Hebog
Name: Moelfryn
OS 1:50,000 map: 115
Summit Height: 274.7m (LIDAR)
Summit Grid Reference: SH 56888 51162 (LIDAR)
Bwlch Height: 246.1m (LIDAR)
Bwlch Grid Reference: SH 56415 51302 (LIDAR)
Drop: 28.6m (LIDAR)
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Survey post for Mynydd y Drum
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| Mynydd y Drum (SN 807 097) now reclassified to a 200m Sub-Twmpau |
My thanks to Mark Jackson for bringing the details of this hill to my attention, and to Kevin McGovern and Aled Williams for their analysis of LIDAR data.
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Y Ceiliog Mawr (SH 594 598) - 200m Twmpau addition (4th reclassification)
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| Y Ceiliog Mawr (SH 594 598). Photo: Aled Williams |
The hill was first proposed as a prospective P30 approximately two years ago by Aled Williams and it then waited to be Trimbled, but as it looked a daunting prospect the Trimble surveyor shied away from his duties. In the interim LIDAR became available.
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| 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips |
The name the hill is listed by is Y Ceiliog Mawr, and it is adjoined to the Glyder Fawr group of hills, which are situated in the north-western part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A1), and it is positioned with Llyn Peris and the A4086 road to its south-west, and has the town of Llanbertis towards the west.
When the original 200m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was not included in the main P30 list or the accompanying Hills to be surveyed sub list, as with no significant contours of note on the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer map it was difficult to know whether any hill of note existed.
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| Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map |
However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed. The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales.
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| LIDAR image of Y Ceiliog Mawr (SH 594 598) |
Therefore, the addition of this hill to 200m Twmpau status is due to LIDAR analysis, resulting in a 220.5m summit height and a 182.3m bwlch height, with these values giving this hill 38.2m of drop, which is sufficient for it to be classified as a 200m Twmpau.
The full details for the hill are:
Group: Glyder Fawr
Name: Y Ceiliog Fawr
OS 1:50,000 map: 115
Summit Height: 220.5m (LIDAR)
Summit Grid Reference: SH 59467 59848 (LIDAR)
Bwlch Height: 182.3m (LIDAR)
Bwlch Grid Reference: SH 59529 59826 (LIDAR)
Drop: 38.2m (LIDAR)
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Gallt y Celyn (SH 811 542) - 200m Sub-Twmpau reclassified to 200m Twmpau (3rd reclassification)
Summit survey post for Gallt y Celyn
Bwlch survey post for Gallt y Celyn
Significant Name Changes post for Gallt y Celyn
There has been a reclassification within the 200m Twmpau (thirty welsh metre prominences and upward) hill list instigated by a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000. The hill has a convoluted history of reclassification and is situated just to the north of the A 5 and southward of the small community of Capel Garmon and south-eastward of the town of Betws-y-coed, and is positioned in the Mynydd Hiraethog range of hills.
| Gallt y Celyn (SH 811 542) in the centre foreground of this photograph and which has now been re-instated as a 200m P30 Twmpau. Photograph taken from the summit of Dinas Mawr (SH 808 539) |
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Bwlch Clump (SJ 170 108) - 200m Twmpau reclassified to 200m Sub-Twmpau (2nd reclassification)
Survey post for Bwlch Clump
Summit Relocations post for Bwlch Clump
Significant Name Changes post for Bwlch Clump
There has been a reclassification within the 200m Twmpau (thirty welsh metre prominences and upward) hill list instigated by a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000. The hill has twin map heighted summits and is situated to the south-east of Dyffryn Meifod and to the north-west of the Maesmawr valley and forms part of the Carnedd Wen range of hills.
| Pt. 262.8m - now reclassified from a twin topped P30 to a non Sub-Twmpau. How the mighty fall!!! |
| Bwlch Clump - now reclassified from a twin topped P30 to a 200m Sub-Twmpau |
Myrddyn Phillips (January 2016)
Mapping Mountains - Hill Reclassifications - 200m Twmpau
Broniarth (SJ 166 120) - 200m Sub-Twmpau addition (1st reclassification)
Survey post for Broniarth
There has been a confirmation of a new addition to the Sub category within the 200m Twmpau (thirty welsh metre prominences and upward) hill list instigated by a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000. The hill is situated between the small community of Meifod to its north-west and that of Maesmawr to its south-east and is part of the Carnedd Wen range of hills.
| Broniarth (SJ 166 120) 200m Sub-Twmpau status now confirmed by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 |









































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