Saturday, 24 February 2018

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – The Fours


The Fours – Significant Name Changes

The Fours are the English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have a minimum drop of 30m.  Accompanying the main P30 list are three sub lists; these are the 400m Sub-Four, 390m Sub-Four and 390m Double Sub-Four category’s, with their criteria detailed in the respective Change Registers that are linked in their above titles, with the Introduction to this list being published on Mapping Mountains on the 22nd December 2013.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams and the posts that have appeared on Mapping Mountains detailing the significant name changes to the main P30 list and the sub lists appear below presented chronologically in receding order.









Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Cwm Sannam Hill (SO 270 755) - 29th significant name change

Survey post for Cwm Sannam Hill


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A: Shropshire, with its Cardinal Hill being Cilfaesty (SO 128 840).  The hill is positioned with the B 4355 road to its south-west and the A 488 road to its east and has the Offa’s Dyke long distance footpath passing over its summit, and the town of Trefyclo (Knighton) towards its south-east.

Cwm Sannam Hill (SO 270 755)

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under its map composition of Cwm-sanaham Hill, this was also the composition it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database with the caveat that a capital ‘S’ was used; Cwm-Sanaham Hill.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Cwm Sanaham Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, with little consideration for its local usage and historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill it was research conducted by Aled in to the documentation of this hill’s name coupled with its local pronunciation that concluded Cwm Sannam Hill to be the most appropriate composition for this hill’s name:

  
The name is related to that of the farm located at the southern foot of the hill, which has been recorded by the OS as Cwm Sanham (1816), Cwm Sannan (1833), Cwm Sanam (1884) and Cwm Sanaham (1904), with the current registered name of the farm being Cwm Sannum. Locally, the name is pronounced as "Cwm Sannam Hill".

Extract from the Ordnance Survey One-Inch 'Old Series'map

Therefore, the name composition this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Cwm Sannam Hill and this was derived from research in to the documenting of this hill’s name coupled with local pronunciation. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Cilfaesty

Name:  Cwm Sannam Hill

Previously Listed Name:  Cwm Sanaham Hill 

Summit Height:  409.1m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137, 148

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 27080 75511  

Drop:  99.1m (converted to OSGM15)


The summit of Cwm Sannam Hill


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (September 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Caer Caradoc (SO 477 953) - 28th significant name change

Summit survey post for Caer Caradoc

Col survey post for Caer Caradoc


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A: Shropshire, with its Cardinal Hill being Stiperstones (SO 367 986).  The hill is positioned with the A 49 road to its west, and has the town of Church Stretton towards its south-west.

Caer Caradoc (SO 477 953)

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Caer Caradoc Hill, this was also the name it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Caer Caradoc Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Extract from the current Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, with little consideration for its local usage and historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill it was research conducted locally that concluded that the word hill is seldom used in relation to this hill and its name, and that it is predominantly known as Caer Caradoc.

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Caer Caradoc and this was derived from local enquiry. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Stiperstones

Name:  Caer Caradoc

Previously Listed Name:  Caer Caradoc Hill 

Summit Height:  459.5m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137, 138

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 47745 95390
  
Drop:  273.0m (Trimble summit and LIDAR col)


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Caer Caradoc


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (September 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Flake Moss (SE 080 080) - 27th significant name change

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill being classified in the 400m Sub-Four category.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Southern Pennines and is placed in Region 36 with its Cardinal Hill being Bleaklow Head (SK 094 960).  The hill is positioned with the A 635 road to its immediate south, and has the town of Meltham to the north-east and the village of Marsden to the north-west.

This hill was not included in the listing that is now known as The Fours when originally compiled as it did not at that stage meet the criteria then used for the accompanying sub-list, this sub-list has now been standardised and the hill was listed by the name of Little Moss in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, with little consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill it was research conducted by Aled that concluded the name of Flake Moss to be more appropriate for this hill than that of Little Moss, which is evidenced by their respective positions on historic Ordnance Survey maps.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Flake Moss and this was derived from studying contemporary and historic Ordnance Survey maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Bleaklow Head

Name:  Flake Moss

Previously Listed Name:  Little Moss

Summit Height:  479m

OS 1:50,000 map:  110

Summit Grid Reference:  SE 080 080

Drop:  c 22m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (September 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Crow Knoll (SD 960 105) - 26th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill being classified in the 390m Double Sub-Four category.  The criteria for 390m Double Sub-Four status are all English hills at or above 390m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Southern Pennines and is placed in Region 36 with its Cardinal Hill being Way Stone Edge (SD 997 140).  The hill is positioned with the A 640 road to its north, the A 663 road to its west and the A 672 road to its south-east, and has the village of Denshaw to the east and the town of Shaw to the south-west.

This hill was not included in the listing that is now known as The Fours when originally compiled as it did not at that stage include a sub-list to the hills at or above 390m and below 400m in height.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Crow Knowl in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Extract from the current Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, with little consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and research conducted by Aled concluded that Ordnance Survey have recorded this hill’s name as both Crow Knoll and Crow Knowl, with the latter being archaic.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Crow Knoll and this was derived from historic Ordnance Survey maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Way Stone Edge

Name:  Crow Knoll

Previously Listed Name:  Crow Knowl 

Summit Height:  391m

OS 1:50,000 map:  109

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 960 105
Drop:  c 20m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (August 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Great Hill (SD 810 288) - 25th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill being classified in the 390m Double Sub-Four category.  The criteria for 390m Double Sub-Four status are all English hills at or above 390m and below 400m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Southern Pennines and is placed in Region 36 with its Cardinal Hill being Cowpe Moss (SD 834 193).  The hill is positioned with the A 56 road to its west and the A 682 road to its east, and has the town of Accrington towards the west.

This hill was not included in the listing that is now known as The Fours when originally compiled as it did not at that stage include a sub-list to the hills at or above 390m and below 400m in height.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Hameldon Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and research conducted by Aled concluded that Ordnance Survey maps suggest that the name Hameldon Hill applies to an area of upland including the neighbouring hill of Great Hameldon, whilst the name of Great Hill appears adjacent to this hill’s summit on the series of Ordnance Survey Six-Inch maps.

Extract from the series of Ordnance Survey Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Great Hill and this was derived from historic Ordnance Survey maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Cowpe Moss

Name:  Great Hill

Previously Listed Name:  Hameldon Hill 

Summit Height:  399.4m (LIDAR)

OS 1:50,000 map:  103

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 81067 28866 (LIDAR)  

Drop:  22.5m (LIDAR)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (August 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Brown Wardle (SD 898 187) - 24th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Southern Pennines and is placed in Region 36 with its Cardinal Hill being Cowpe Moss (SD 834 193).  The hill is positioned with the A 671 road to its west and the A 6033 road to its east, and has the town of Rochdale towards the south.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Brown Wardle Hill, and this was also the name the hill appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Brown Wardle Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Extract from the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and after research conducted by Aled showing that this hill’s name is presented as Brown Wardle and Brown Wardle Hill on historical and contemporary Ordnance Survey maps respectively, the decision was taken to prioritise the name of Brown Wardle for The Fours.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey One-Inch 'Old Series' map

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Brown Wardle and this was derived from historic Ordnance Survey maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Cowpe Moss

Name:  Brown Wardle

Previously Listed Name:  Brown Wardle Hill

Summit Height:  400m

OS 1:50,000 map:  109

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 89821 18701
  
Drop:  48m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (August 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Cridden (SD 799 240) - 23rd significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Southern Pennines and is placed in Region 36 with its Cardinal Hill being Cowpe Moss (SD 834 193).  The hill is positioned with the A 56 road to its west and the A 682 road to its east, and has the town of Haslingden towards the south-west and Rawtenstall towards the south-east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Cribden Hill, and this was also the name the hill appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Cribden Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Extract from the current Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill it was research conducted by Aled to names used in a number of historical documents that concluded that the name of Cridden is more appropriate for this hill.

History of the Original Parish of Whalley by T. D. Whitaker, 1818

Extract from the History of the Original Parish of Whalley

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Cridden and this was derived from a variety of historic documents. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Cowpe Moss

Name:  Cridden

Previously Listed Name:  Cribden Hill 

Summit Height:  401m

OS 1:50,000 map:  103

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 79947 24039 

Drop:  60m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (August 2018)







Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Totridge Fell (SD 634 487) - 22nd significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Southern Pennines and is placed in Region 36 with its Cardinal Hill being Ward’s Stone (SD 591 587).  The hill is positioned with the M6 to its west and the B 6478 road to its east, and has the village of Dunsop Bridge towards the north-east and Chipping towards the south south-west.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Totridge, and this was also the name the hill appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Totridge in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Extract from the current Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill it was research conducted by Aled to names used on older Ordnance Survey maps including the series of Six-Inch maps that concluded that the name of Totridge Fell is a more appropriate name for this hill.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Extract from the Ordnance Survey historical 1:25,000 map

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Totridge Fell and this was derived from a variety of older Ordnance Survey maps including that of the series of Six-Inch maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Ward’s Stone

Name:  Totridge Fell

Previously Listed Name:  Totridge

Summit Height:  496m

OS 1:50,000 map:  102, 103

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 63456 48732
  
Drop:  52m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (August 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Hammond Close (SD 953 648) - 21st significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill listed as a 400m Sub-Four.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.
The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Central Pennines and is placed in Region 35, Section 35B with its Cardinal Hill being Pen y Ghent (SD 838 733).  The hill is positioned with the B 6160 road and the River Wharfe to its east, and has the village of Threshfield towards the east south-east and Malham towards the west south-west.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Malham Moor, and this was also the name the hill appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed under the point (Pt. 411m) notation in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill it was research conducted by Aled to names used on the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps that concluded that the name of Hammond Close is a more appropriate name for this hill.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Hammond Close and this derived from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Pen y Ghent

Name:  Hammond Close

Previously Listed Name:  Pt. 411m 

Summit Height:  411m

OS 1:50,000 map:  98

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 95366 64856
  
Drop:  c 29m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (July 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Moughton Scars (SD 786 711) - 20th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Central Pennines and is placed in Region 35, Section 35B with its Cardinal Hill being Whernside (SD 738 814).  The hill is positioned with the A 65 road to its south-west and the B 6479 road to its east, and has the village of Austwick towards the south-west and the village of Horton in Ribblesdale towards the north-east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Moughton, and this was also the name the hill appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Moughton in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill it was research conducted by Aled to names used on the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps that concluded that the name of Moughton Scars is a more appropriate name for this hill.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Moughton Scars and this was derived from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Whernside

Name:  Moughton Scars

Previously Listed Name:  Moughton
Summit Height:  427.4m (LIDAR)

OS 1:50,000 map:  98

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 78677 71191 (LIDAR) 
Drop:  74.1m (LIDAR)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (July 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Barbon Low Fell (SD 653 814) - 19th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Central Pennines and is placed in Region 35, Section 35B with its Cardinal Hill being Whernside (SD 738 814).  The hill is positioned with the A 683 road to its west and the A 65 road to its south, and has the small town of Kirkby Lonsdale towards the south-west.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Hoggs Hill, and this was also the name the hill appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Hoggs Hills in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

In the case of this hill the name of Hoggs Hills and Hogg Hill has consistently been presented on Ordnance Survey maps as applicable to land to the east of this hill’s summit, whereas the name of Barbon Low Fell has appeared in a larger text and applicable to land on the upper northerly part of this hill, with the small community of Barbon to the west north-west of this hill’s summit.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Barbon Low Fell and this was derived from a variety of different scaled Ordnance Survey maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Whernside

Name:  Barbon Low Fell

Previously Listed Name:  Hoggs Hills
Summit Height:  430.7m (LIDAR)

OS 1:50,000 map:  97

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 65375 81465 (LIDAR) 
Drop:  32.4m (LIDAR)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (July 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Pt. 438.2m (SD 650 808) - 18th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Central Pennines and is placed in Region 35, Section 35B with its Cardinal Hill being Whernside (SD 738 814).  The hill is positioned with the A 683 road to its west and the A 65 road to its south, and has the small town of Kirkby Lonsdale towards the south-west.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Brownthwaite Moss, and when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database the hill appeared under the name of Barbon Low Fell (Brownthwaite Moss).  Subsequently the hill was listed as Brownthwaite in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill the name of Brownthwaite Moss is applicable to wet land to the south-west of this hill’s summit, whilst Barbon Low Fell is recorded by the Ordnance Survey as applicable to land to the north of this hill, and the name of Brownthwaite is given as applicable to the 421m map heighted top to the south-west of this hill.

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Pt. 438.2m and this follows the standard practice of using the point notation for hill’s whose name has not been substantiated by the authors either through local enquiry, contemporary maps or from historical documentation. 


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Whernside

Name:  Pt. 438.2m

Previously Listed Name:  Brownthwaite 

Summit Height:  438.2m (LIDAR)

OS 1:50,000 map:  97

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 65071 80837 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  133m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (July 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Crumma Pasture (NZ 085 061) - 17th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill listed as a 390m Sub-Four.  The criteria for 390m Sub-Four status are all English hills at or above 390m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Northern Pennines and is placed in Region 35, Section 35A with its Cardinal Hill being Great Shunner Fell (SD 848 972).  The hill is positioned with the A 66 road to its north-east and the A 6108 road and the town of Richmond towards its south-east. 

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill was not included as the sub category did not take in hills below 400m in height, however when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database the hill was listed as unnamed summit.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Weather Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer maps position the name of Weather Hill adjacent to a 382m map heighted top and to the north-west of the summit of this hill.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Since the original publication of this list on the RHB Yahoo Group file database there have been a number of Ordnance Survey maps made available online, some of these are historical such as the series of Six-Inch maps on the National Library of Scotland website, whilst others are current and digitally updated such as the Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website.  Two of the historical maps now available are the Ordnance Survey Draft Surveyors map which formed the basis for the Ordnance Survey One-Inch ‘Old Series’ map, and it was the latter of these maps as well as the Six-Inch map that position the name of Crumma Pasture adjacent to this hill.

The One-Inch ‘Old Series’ was the first map that Ordnance Survey published, and they were based on the preceding Draft Surveyors map.  Their publication culminated from the whole of Britain being surveyed between 1791 and 1874 and the detail gathered therein produced at a scale of one inch to the mile and published in sheet format between 1805 and 1874.  The One-Inch ‘Old Series’ maps for the whole of England are now available online, they are also available in map format as enlarged and re-projected versions to match the scale and dimensions of the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger series and are published by Cassini.  This series of maps forms another important part in the study of upland place-names and bridge the time frame leading to the production of the Ordnance Survey base map of the Six-Inch series.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey One-Inch 'Old Series' map

For many years The Ordnance Survey Six-Inch map was the base map for information to be fed on to, the scale was superseded in the 1950s by the 1:10,000 series of maps and was available as sheets until the 1980s when they were digitised.  One of the recurring themes of Ordnance Survey maps is that some of the data are not consistent between the different scales of maps available, this is particularly noticeable for numerical data between the two publicly available scales of 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer maps.  However, when studying place-names it is also noticeable that name placement and sometimes composition is not consistent between these lower scaled maps and their larger scaled and older maps of the Six-Inch series.  It is also noticeable that some names appear on the Six-Inch map whilst they do not appear on the smaller scaled maps.  Extensive research has shown that place-name data and numerical data on the series of Six-Inch maps, and especially so for the former’s placement, are more appropriate and accurate compared too much of the information on contemporary maps. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey Six-Inch map published in 1857

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Crumma Pasture and this was derived from the Ordnance Survey One-Inch ‘Old Series’ map as well as the Ordnance Survey Six-Inch map, with map placement for the name of Weather Hill favouring land to the north-west of this hill’s summit.  


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Great Shunner Fell

Name:  Crumma Pasture

Previously Listed Name:  Weather Hill

Summit Height:  392

OS 1:50,000 map:  92

Summit Grid Reference:  NZ 08593 06115  

Drop:  33m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (June 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Swarthy Top (NY 955 217) - 16th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Northern Pennines and is placed in Region 35, Section 35A with its Cardinal Hill being Cross Fell (NY 687 343).  The hill is positioned with the B 6277 road to its north north-east and has a number of reservoirs close by, including the Grassholme, Selset, Balderhead, Blackton and Hury, and has the small community of Middleton-in-Teesdale towards the north.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Millstone Grits, and when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database the hill appeared under the name of Millstone Grits (Harker Hill).  Subsequently the name of the hill reverted to just Milstone Grits in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill there are two names that are consistently applied near to its summit on different scaled Ordnance Survey maps, these names are Swarthy Top and Millstone Grits, with the latter nearer the summit of this hill on contemporary maps and hence this hill’s previous listing under this name. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Since the original publication of this list on the RHB Yahoo Group file database there have been a number of Ordnance Survey maps made available online, some of these are historical such as the series of Six-Inch maps on the National Library of Scotland website, whilst others are current and digitally updated such as the Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website.  Therefore, prior to the publication of the 2nd edition of The Fours, Aled consulted the series of Six-Inch maps produced by the Ordnance Survey.

For many years The Ordnance Survey Six-Inch map was the base map for information to be fed on to, the scale was superseded in the 1950s by the 1:10,000 series of maps and was available as sheets until the 1980s when they were digitised.  One of the recurring themes of Ordnance Survey maps is that some of the data are not consistent between the different scales of maps available, this is particularly noticeable for numerical data between the two publicly available scales of 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer maps.  However, when studying place-names it is also noticeable that name placement and sometimes composition is not consistent between these lower scaled maps and their larger scaled and older maps of the Six-Inch series.  It is also noticeable that some names appear on the Six-Inch map whilst they do not appear on the smaller scaled maps.  Extensive research has shown that place-name data and numerical data on the series of Six-Inch maps, and especially so for the former’s placement, are more appropriate and accurate compared to much of the information on contemporary maps.  

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Swarthy Fell and although this name appears close to the summit of this hill on contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer maps, it is the Six-Inch map and its placement of this name that is being favoured in preference to that of Millstone Grits which is probably a name applying to a feature on the hill.  


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Cross Fell

Name:  Swarthy Top

Previously Listed Name:  Millstone Grits 

Summit Height:  c 411m

OS 1:50,000 map:  91, 92

Summit Grid Reference:  NY 95546 21759  

Drop:  c 56m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (June 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Pt. 428m (NY 300 017) - 15th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill listed as a 400m Sub-Four.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Sothern Fells of the Lake District and is placed in Region 34, Section 34D with its Cardinal Hill being The Old Man of Coniston (SD 272 978).  The hill is positioned between the steam valleys of the Greenburn Beck to the north-west and the Pierce How Beck and the Yewdale Beck towards the south-east, and has the small community of Little Langdale towards the north-east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill was not included as it did not meet the criteria then used, however this list has now been standardised and interpolated height and drop values also added, it was subsequently listed under the name of High Fell in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Prior to publication of the 2nd edition of The Fours enquiries were made with two well-known Lake District guide book authors, resulting in a non-committal reply in regard to the name of High Fell, and the advice that ‘one would need to talk to genuine locals and shepherds to give definitive answers’. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Pt. 428m and this follows the standard practice of using the point notation for hill’s whose name has not been substantiated by the authors either through local enquiry, contemporary maps or from historical documentation. 


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  The Old Man of Coniston

Name:  Pt. 428m

Previously Listed Name:  High Fell 

Summit Height:  428m

OS 1:50,000 map:  90

Summit Grid Reference:  NY 30023 01704 

Drop:  c 20m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (June 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Whitecombe Moss (SD 151 873) - 14th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill listed as a 400m Sub-Four.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Southern Fells of the Lake District and is placed in Region 34, Section 34D with its Cardinal Hill being The Old Man of Coniston (SD 272 978).  The hill is positioned with the A 595 road to its west and its east, and has the small town of Millom towards its south- south-east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill was not included as it did not meet the criteria then used, however this list has now been standardised and interpolated height and drop values also added, it was subsequently listed under the name of Stoupdale Head in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Prior to publication of the 2nd edition of The Fours enquiries were made with two well-known Lake District guide book authors, resulting in the name of Stoupdale Head being considered as ‘very plausible’, and the advice that ‘one would need to talk to genuine locals and shepherds to give definitive answers’. 

Therefore, as there is no definite confirmation of Stoupdale Head being an appropriate name for this hill, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Whitecombe Moss, which is the name appearing nearest the summit of this hill on a number of different scaled Ordnance Survey maps. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  The Old Man of Coniston

Name:  Whitecombe Moss

Previously Listed Name:  Stoupdale Head

Summit Height:  472m

OS 1:50,000 map:  96

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 15150 87370
  
Drop:  26m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (June 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

High Forest (NY 492 143) - 13th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill listed as a 400m Sub-Four.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m and more and below 30m of drop.  

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Eastern Fells of the Lake District and is placed in Region 34, Section 34C with its Cardinal Hill being High Street (NY 440 110).  The hill is positioned with the expanse of Haweswater Reservoir to its west, and has the small community of Burnbanks towards the north-east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Kit Crag, this was also the name it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Naddle High Forest in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 historical map

Prior to publication of the 2nd edition of The Fours enquiries were made with two well-known Lake District guide book authors, resulting in the name of Naddle High Forest considered as ‘very possibly correct’, and the advice that ‘one would need to talk to genuine locals and shepherds to give definitive answers’. 

Therefore, as there is no definite confirmation of Naddle High Forest being an appropriate name for this hill, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is High Forest, which is the name appearing nearest the summit of this hill on a number of different scaled Ordnance Survey maps.  


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  High Street

Name:  High Forest

Previously Listed Name:  Naddle High Forest 

Summit Height:  435m

OS 1:50,000 map:  90

Summit Grid Reference:  NY 49245 14308
  
Drop:  c 28m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (May 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Pt. 489m (NY 487 164) - 12th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Eastern Fells of the Lake District and is placed in Region 34, Section 34C with its Cardinal Hill being High Street (NY 440 110).  The hill is positioned with the expanse of Haweswater Reservoir to its south, and has the small community of Bampton towards the north-east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Bampton Common, this was also the name it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Bampton Fell in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

When a hill is seemingly unnamed on the map, hill list compilers are prone to either invent a name for the hill or follow the name given the hill in previous hill listings with little consideration for the name’s local or historical confirmation.  This is not a practice that is now advocated as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and if a name is not forthcoming the point (Pt. 489m) notation can be used.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Prior to publication of the 2nd edition of The Fours enquiries were made with two well-known Lake District guide book authors, resulting in the following ‘this top also carries no known local name’, and the advice that ‘one would need to talk to genuine locals and shepherds to give definitive answers’. 

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Pt. 489m and this follows the standard practice of using the point notation for hill’s whose name has not been substantiated by the authors either through local enquiry, contemporary maps or from historical documentation. 

  
The full details for the hill are:

Group:  High Street

Name:  Pt. 489m

Previously Listed Name:  Bampton Fell

Summit Height:  489m

OS 1:50,000 map:  90

Summit Grid Reference:  NY 48712 16476  

Drop:  35m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (May 2018)







Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Pt. 424m (NY 424 233) - 11th significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Eastern Fells of the Lake District and is placed in Region 34, Section 34C with its Cardinal Hill being Helvellyn (NY 342 151).  The hill is positioned between the A 5091 road to its west and the A 592 road to its east and has a minor road directly to its north, and has the small community of Watermillock towards the east south-east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Underwood, this was also the name it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Watermillock Fell in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill the name of Underwood has been consistently applied to a feature or a house to the east of the hill.  This form of supplanting a name is not a practice that is now advocated as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Prior to publication of the 2nd edition of The Fours enquiries were made with two well-known Lake District guide book authors, resulting in this hill being described as ‘nameless’, and the advice that ‘one would need to talk to genuine locals and shepherds to give definitive answers’. 

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Pt. 424m and this follows the standard practice of using the point notation for hill’s whose name has not been substantiated by the authors either through local enquiry, contemporary maps or from historical documentation.  


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Helvellyn

Name:  Pt. 424m

Previously Listed Name:  Watermillock Fell 

Summit Height:  424m

OS 1:50,000 map:  90

Summit Grid Reference:  NY 42459 23318  

Drop:  39m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (May 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

The Warren (SO 318 685) - 10th significant name change

Survey post for The Warren


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 15th February 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill being classified in the 400m Sub-Four category.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38B with its Cardinal Hill being Beacon Hill (SO 176 767).  The hill is positioned above the B 4355 road which is to its south-west, and is situated between the small community of Norton to the south-west and the town of Trefyclo (Knighton) to the north-west.

The Warren (SO 318 685)

This hill was not included in the listing that is now known as The Fours when originally compiled as it did not at that stage meet the criteria for the sub-list which was entitled ‘Hills to measure’, this sub-list has now been standardised and therefore this hill is included.  When this list was subsequently uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database and data then augmented from Clem Clements it appeared listed as; Stonewall Hill (The Warren)

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill there are two names that are consistently applied near to its summit on different scaled Ordnance Survey maps, these names are Stonewall Hill and The Warren.

With time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research the most appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it is the series of different scaled Ordnance Survey maps whose placement of the names Stonewall Hill and The Warren have been generally consistent that imply the most appropriate name for this hill is The Warren, however for clarification of the land boundary given to these two names it is the Tithe map that was consulted.


Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Since the original publication of this list on the RHB Yahoo Group file database there have been a number of Ordnance Survey maps made available online, some of these are historical such as the series of Six-Inch maps on the National Library of Scotland website, whilst others are current and digitally updated such as the Interactive Coverage Map hosted on the Geograph website.  One of the historical maps now available is the One-Inch ‘Old Series’ map which was the first map made publicly available by the Ordnance Survey.

The One-Inch ‘Old Series’ was the first map that Ordnance Survey published, and they were based on the preceding Draft Surveyors map.  There publication culminated from the whole of Britain being surveyed between 1791 and 1874 and the detail gathered therein produced at a scale of one inch to the mile and published in sheet format between 1805 and 1874.  The One-Inch ‘Old Series’ maps for the whole of England are now available online; they are also available in map format as enlarged and re-projected versions to match the scale and dimensions on the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger series and are published by Cassini.  This series of maps forms another important part in the study of upland place-names and bridge the time frame leading to the production of the Ordnance Survey base map of the Six-Inch series.


Extract from the Ordnance Survey One-Inch 'Old Series' map

The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in these two countries.


The enclosed land where the summit of a hill is situated is usually given a number on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  However, in this instance the land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as The Warren, with the land boundary between it and Stonewall Hill being the narrow road to the west of the summit which also forms a part of the designated border between England and Wales.  This information appears on the Tithe map for the counties of Hereford and Radnor and in the parish of Presteigne.

Extract from the Tithe map

Therefore, the name this hill is listed by in The Fours is The Warren and this was derived from the series of different scaled Ordnance Survey maps and substantiated by the Tithe map. 


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Beacon Hill

Name:  The Warren

Previously Listed Name:  Stonewall Hill (The Warren)
  
Summit Height:  403.8m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137, 148

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 31855 68590
  
Drop:  27.45m (converted to OSGM15)



Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (March 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Bury Ditches (SO 327 838) - 9th significant name change

Survey post for the Bury Ditches


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the summit height and drop of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 8th March 2017.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill being classified in the 390m Sub-Four category.  The criteria for 390m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 390m and below 400m in height that have a minimum 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A with its Cardinal Hill being Cilfaesty (SO 128 840).  The hill is positioned above the A 488 road which is to its west, and has a number of B roads then encircling it with the B 4385 to its north, the B 4368 to its south and the continuation of the B 4385 to its east, and is situated between the small towns of Bishop’s Castle towards its north and Clun to its south-west.

Bury Ditches (SO 327 838)

This hill was not included in the listing that is now known as The Fours when originally compiled as it did not at that stage include a sub-list to the hills at and above 390m and below 400m in height.  When this list was subsequently uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database and data then augmented from Clem Clements it appeared listed as; Sunnyhill (Bury Ditches) Subsequently the hill was listed as Sunnyhill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill there are two names that are consistently applied near to its summit on different scaled Ordnance Survey maps, these names are Bury Ditches and Sunnyhill. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Extract from the series of Ordnance Survey Six-Inch maps

Information board at the start of the main path to Bury Ditches

With time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research the prioritised locally known name for the hill can usually be found, and in this case it was an on-site visit and research conducted locally by Myrddyn Phillips that deduced the locally known contemporary name for this hill is Bury Ditches, with the caveat that historical documentation gives the older name for the hill as Tongley Hill.

Extract from:  A system of Geography: Ancient and Modern, Volume 2 by James Playfair

Extract from:  Companion to the Wye tour, Ariconensia; or, Archæological Scetches of Ross... by Thomas Dudley Fosbroke

Therefore, the name this hill will be listed by in the 2nd edition of The Fours due for publication in early 2018 by Mapping Mountains Publications is Bury Ditches and this was derived from an on-site visit, historical and contemporary Ordnance Survey maps and local enquiry.  


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Beacon Hill

Name:  Bury Ditches

Previously Listed Name:  Sunnyhill 

Summit Height:  394.1m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 32753 83805

Drop:  146.7m (converted to OSGM15)


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Bury Ditches (SO 327 838)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (February 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Brow Hill (SO 363 956) - 8th significant name change

Survey post for Brow Hill


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the summit height, drop and status of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 22nd March 2015.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A with its Cardinal Hill being the Stiperstones (SO 367 986).  The hill is positioned above the River West Onny to its west and the River East Onny to its east and is encircled by a number of minor lanes, and has the small community of the Bridges towards the east north-east and Wentnor towards the south-east.

Brow Hill (SO 363 956)

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Linley Hill, this was also the name it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Brow Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 


Linley Hill      409m        SO 364 956
    (29m)



Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in this case it was research conducted by Aled Williams with the local farming community where the name for the hill was given as Brow Hill.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Brow Hill and this was derived from local enquiry. 


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Stiperstones

Name:  Brow Hill

Previously Listed Name:  Linley Hill 

Summit Height:  408.9m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 36328 95615
  
Drop:  33.9m (converted to OSGM15)


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Brow Hill (SO 363 956)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (February 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Linley Hill (SO 358 943) - 7th significant name change

Survey post for Linley Hill


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the summit height and drop of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 22nd March 2015.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A with its Cardinal Hill being the Stiperstones (SO 367 986).  The hill is positioned above the River West Onny to its west and the River East Onny to its east and is encircled by a number of minor lanes, and has the small community of the Bridges towards the north-east and Wentnor towards the south-east.

Linley Hill (SO 358 943)

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Norbury Hill, this was also the name it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Linley Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 


Norbury Hill        411m        SO 358 944




Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of this hill there are two names that are consistently applied near to its summit on different scaled Ordnance Survey maps, these names are Norbury Hill and Linley Hill. 

Extract from the series of Ordnance Survey Six-Inch maps

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Historical map

With time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research the prioritised locally known name for the hill can usually be found, and in this case it was research conducted by Aled Williams with the local farming community where the name for the hill was consistently given as Linley Hill.

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Linley Hill and this was derived from historical and contemporary Ordnance Survey maps and substantiated by local enquiry.  


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Stiperstones

Name:  Linley Hill

Previously Listed Name:  Norbury Hill 

Summit Height:  411.2m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 35873 94366 

Drop:  70.5m (converted to OSGM15)


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Linley Hill (SO 358 943)



Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (February 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Stoney Pound Hill (SO 234 808) - 6th significant name change

Survey post for Stoney Pound Hill


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the summit height of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 10th March 2015.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A with its Cardinal Hill being Cilfaesty (SO 128 840).  The hill is positioned above a number of minor roads and has the River Clun to its north and the River Teme to its south, and has the small community of Newcastle to its north-east and the town of Clun to its east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Hurgin North Top, the name was then given as Garn Rock Hill~ (Hurgin: N Top) when this list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database and data then augmented from Clem Clements.

Hurgin North Top    437m      SO 234 808


Authors name from hill to the South


During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  This included using a directional name, which supplants the name of another hill as that for the hill in question and adding a directional element to it, as in; Hurgin North Top.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in this case the name Stoney Pound Hill was derived through research conducted by Aled Williams with the local farming community.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Stoney Pound Hill and this was derived from local enquiry. 


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Beacon Hill

Name:  Stoney Pound Hill

Previously Listed Name:  Hurgin North Top 

Summit Height:  438.3m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 23445 80810
  
Drop:  61m


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Stoney Pound Hill (SO 234 808)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (February 2018)






Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Pt. 425.4m (SO 243 801) - 5th significant name change

Survey post for Pt. 425.4m


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the height, drop and status of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 10th March 2015.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill being classified in the 400m Sub-Four category.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A with its Cardinal Hill being Cilfaesty (SO 128 840).  The hill is positioned above a number of minor roads and has Offa’s Dyke and its long distance footpath to its east, and has the small community of Newcastle to its north and the village of Llanfair Waterdine to its south.

Pt. 425.4m (SO 243 801)

This hill was not included in the listing that is now known as The Fours when originally compiled as it did not at that stage meet the criteria for the accompanying sub list which was entitled; Hills to Measure.  When this list was subsequently uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database and data then augmented from Clem Clements it appeared listed as; Spoad Hill

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of Spoad Hill this name appears on a number of different scaled Ordnance Survey maps and has been consistently applied to the west – east orientated road at a crossroads to the north-east of this hill’s summit close to where Springfield Farm is positioned and not necessarily to the hill itself.  This form of supplanting a name is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Historical map

Extract from the series of Ordnance Survey Six-Inch maps

However, on occasion even after local or historical research an appropriate name for a hill cannot be substantiated and in the case of this hill it was Aled Williams who undertook research with a number of local farmers, all of whom failed to give a name for this hill and importantly were of the opinion that it was not named Spoad Hill, during this research information was given that the adjacent open access land to this hill’s summit is known locally as The Turbary.

Information board showing the boundary of The Turbary

Therefore, as the authors do not know a name for this hill that has local or historical evidence of use, the point (Pt. 425.4m) notation is being used in preference to using a supplanted name where the authors have not found evidence that it applies to the hill itself.

Prior to the 1st edition of The Fours being published by Europeaklist in December 2013 this hill was not included in this list, therefore although there is no change in this hill’s listed name within The Fours it is worth categorising under the heading of Significant Name Changes as the name this hill is now listed by uses the point (Pt. 425.4m) notation and diverges from that used in the RHB Yahoo group file database.
  
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Pt. 425.4m and this follows the standard practice of using the point notation for hill’s whose name has not been substantiated either through local enquiry or from historical documentation.  


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Beacon Hill

Name:  Pt. 425.4m

Previously Listed Name:  Not previously listed in The Fours 

Summit Height:  425.4m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 24364 80193

Drop:  28.2m (converted to OSGM15)


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Pt. 425.4m (SO 243 801)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (February 2018)







Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Walker’s Bank (SO 389 984) - 4th significant name change

Survey post for Walker's Bank


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the height, drop and status of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 5th November 2014.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill being classified in the 390m Sub-Four category.  The criteria for 390m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 390m and below 400m in height that have a minimum 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A with its Cardinal Hill being the Stiperstones (SO 367 986).  The hill is positioned above a number of minor lanes with the one to its south-west being a part of the Shropshire Way, and has the small communities of Stiperstones towards its north-west and Picklescott towards its east north-east.

Walker's Bank (SO 389 984)

This hill was not included in the listing that is now known as The Fours when originally compiled as it did not at that stage include a sub-list to the hills at and above 390m and below 400m in height.  When this list was subsequently uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database and data then augmented from Clem Clements it appeared listed as; unnamed summit~.  These data were then duplicated by Mark Jackson to form this height band within the Tumps and this hill is now listed as Gatten Hill within that list, presumably so as there are a number of buildings positioned near to this hill with the name Gatten applied to them on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, such as Gatten Lodge, Far Gatten and Near Gatten Farm.

Although I am of firm belief that listed hill names used by other authors should be respected when giving detail within other people’s lists, the practice of inventing a hill name based on the proximity of buildings near to where it is situated is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and this hill now appears under the name of Walker’s Bank in The Fours due to research conducted by Aled William’s with local farmers.

Prior to the 1st edition of The Fours being published by Europeaklist in December 2013 this hill was not included in this list, therefore although there is no change in this hill’s listed name within The Fours it is worth categorising under the heading of Significant Name Changes as the name this hill is now listed by comes from local enquiry. 
  
Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Walker’s Bank and this was derived from local enquiry. 


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Stiperstones

Name:  Walker’s Bank

Previously Listed Name:  Not previously listed in The Fours

Summit Height:  399.0m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 38905 98491
  
Drop:  43.6m (converted to OSGM15)


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Walker's Bank (SO 389 984)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (February 2018)







Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

The Cold Piece (SO 338 996) - 3rd significant name change

Survey post for The Cold Piece

Hill Reclassification post for The Cold Piece


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the height, drop and status of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 5th November 2014.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill being reclassified to the 390m Sub-Four category.  The criteria for 390m Sub-Four status are all English hills at or above 390m and below 400m in height that have a minimum 30m of drop.
The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A with its Cardinal Hill being the Stiperstones (SO 367 986).  The hill is positioned above the A 488 road and the upper reaches of the Hope Valley which are to its north-west, and has the small community of Snailbeach towards the north-east.

The Cold Piece (SO 338 996)

Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of Shelve Hill this name has been consistently applied by the Ordnance Survey to land south-west of this hill’s summit and approximately 1km from it.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was research conducted by Aled Williams with a local farmer who gave the name of The Cold Piece for this hill.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Shelve Hill, this was also the name it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as The Cold Piece in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 


Shelve Hill        400c        SO 338 997



Named from village to the South


Hill list authors are prone to list a hill by the name that appears nearest to its summit on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps, without much consideration for its local or historical confirmation, or whether map placement is appropriate, and in the case of Shelve Hill this name has been consistently applied by the Ordnance Survey to land south-west of this hill’s summit and approximately 1km from it.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in this case it was research conducted by Aled Williams with a local farmer who gave the name of The Cold Piece for this hill.

  
Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Historical map

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is The Cold Piece and this was derived from local enquiry. 


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Stiperstones

Name:  The Cold Piece

Previously Listed Name:  Shelve Hill

Summit Height:  399.5m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 33849 99695

Drop:  57.5m (converted to OSGM15)

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of The Cold Piece (SO 338 996)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (January 2018)







Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Burway Hill (SO 440 942) - 2nd significant name change

Survey post for Burway Hill


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the height, drop and status of the hill confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 19th February 2014.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m and more and below 30m of drop.
  
The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Welsh Borders and is placed in Region 38, Section 38A with its Cardinal Hill being the Stiperstones (SO 367 986).  The hill is a part of the Long Mynd and is positioned above the Carding Mill Valley to its north and the Townbrook Valley to its south, and has the town of Church Stretton to its east.

Burway Hill (SO 440 942)

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Devil’s Mouth, this was also the name it appeared as when the list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Burway Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013.

Devil's Mouth        400c        SO 441 942        Two points of same height







During my early hill listing I paid little regard to name placement on a map, or the meaning of names and to what feature the name was appropriately applied to, and used many names that seemingly applied to a hill and whose placement was nearest the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  Therefore I prioritised names for listing purposes that I now understand are inappropriate or where another name is viewed as being more appropriate, and Devil’s Mouth is such an example as this name has been consistently applied by the Ordnance Survey on maps that are viewed as being good for name placement such as the Six-Inch series and the 1:25,000 Historical map, to land immediately above the Devilsmouth Hollow which is a steep stream valley to the north-east of this hill, with the Devil’s Mouth the narrow neck of land where an ancient cross-dyke is situated with Burway Hill to the east of this point and the main Long Mynd plateau to the west.   

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Burway Hill and this was derived from historical Ordnance Survey maps. 


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Stiperstones

Name:  Burway Hill

Previously Listed Name:  Devil’s Mouth 

Summit Height:  402.8m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  137

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 44061 94220 

Drop:  29.7m (converted to OSGM15)


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Burway Hill (SO 440 942)


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (January 2018)







Mapping Mountains - Significant Name Changes - The Fours

Cowpe Moss (SD 834 193) - 1st significant name change


There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with the summit height of the hill having been determined by a Leica 530 survey conducted by John Barnard, Graham Jackson and Myrddyn Phillips which took place on the 8th July 2009.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list due for publication by Mapping Mountains Publications in early 2018.

The hill is situated in the Southern Pennines and is placed in Region 36, and is a Cardinal Hill.  The hill is positioned above a number of A roads with the A 681 to its north, the A 680 to its south-west and the A 671 to its east, and has the towns of Rawtenstall and Bacup to the north-west and north-east respectively and Rochdale to the south-east.

Cowpe Moss (SD 834 193)

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill appeared under the name of Cowpe Moss, the name was then given as Hailstorm Hill (Cowpe Moss) when this list was uploaded to the RHB Yahoo group file database.  Subsequently the hill was listed as Hailstorm Hill in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013.  The hill is now reverting to its original listed name for the 2nd edition of The Fours published by Mapping Mountains Publications.


477m        Hail Storm Hill (143)       109        SD 834 193        244m






Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Cowpe Moss and this was derived from contemporary Ordnance Survey maps. 

Gathering data at the summit of Cowpe Moss


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Southern Pennines

Name:  Cowpe Moss

Previously Listed Name:  Hailstorm Hill 

Summit Height:  476.7m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  109

Summit Grid Reference:  SD 83497 19346  

Drop:  244m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (January 2018)



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