Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – 100m Twmpau

Gravel Pit Field (SJ 233 171)

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the 100m Twmpau, and the following details are in respect of a hill that was surveyed with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 on the 8^th August 2015.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

100m Twmpau - All Welsh hills at and above 100m and below 200m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward.

The hill is a part of the Carnedd Wen range, which is an extensive group of hills situated in the southern part of north Wales.  It is situated in the district known as Deuddwr and is positioned between the small communities of Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain to the north, Llanymynech to the north-east, Four Crosses to the east north-east and Ardd-lin (Arddleen) to the south-east.

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Gravel Pit Field

The hill appeared in the 100m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Ty-Top.  During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them, or as in this instance, use the name of what was presumed to be a near house.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with research either conducted locally or historically an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found.  

Ty-Top

154m

SJ233172

126

240

 

The name this hill is now listed by is Gravel Pit Field, and this was derived from the Tithe map.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.

Accessing information on the Tithe map is simplified by the use of a split screen enabling the lay of land as it is today on the map on the right to be compared against the lay of land as it was during the time of the Tithe map

The enclosed land where the summit of Gravel Pit Field is situated is given the number 1521 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Gravel Pit Field on the Tithe map and is described as Arable; it appears in the county named as Montgomery and in the parish of Llansanffraid ym Mechain. 

When cross referenced in the apportionments the enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Gravel Pit Field

Please note; this is the second consecutive entry under the Significant Name Changes heading that has detailed a hill with the name of Gravel Pit Field, to complicate matters both hills were surveyed on the same day and both appear in the same survey post on this site.  However, they are different hills.

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Carnedd Wen

Name:  Gravel Pit Field

Previously Listed Name:  Ty-Top 

Summit Height:  153.4m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  126

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 23345 17175 

 

Drop:  37m

For details on the survey of Gravel Pit Field

Myrddyn Phillips (August 2016)

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – 100m Twmpau

Gravel Pit Field (SJ 225 167)

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the 100m Twmpau, and the following details are in respect of a hill that was surveyed with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 on the 8^th August 2015.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

100m Twmpau - All Welsh hills at and above 100m and below 200m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward.

The hill is a part of the Carnedd Wen range, which is an extensive group of hills situated in the southern part of north Wales.  It is positioned between the small communities of Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain to the north, Four Crosses to the east north-east and Ardd-lin (Arddleen) to the east south-east.

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Gravel Pit Field

The hill appeared in the 100m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under an invented name of The Mount, with an accompanying note stating; Name from buildings to the South-East.  During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them, or as in this instance, use the name of a near house.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with research either conducted locally or historically an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found.  

The Mount

154m

SJ225166

126

240

Name from buildings to the South-East. Trig pillar.

The name this hill is now listed by is Gravel Pit Field, and this was derived from the Tithe map.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.

Accessing information on the Tithe map is simplified by the use of a split screen enabling the lay of land as it is today on the map on the right to be compared against the lay of land as it was during the time of the Tithe map

With the aid of an overlay the two sets of information can be directly compared

The enclosed land where the summit of Gravel Pit Field is situated is given the number 288 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Gravel Pit Field on the Tithe map; it appears in the county named as Montgomery and in the parish of Meifod. 

When cross referenced in the apportionments the enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Gravel Pit Field

It is important when studying these apportionments to compare the number given on the Tithe map with the information given in the apportionments, as in this instance there are at least three other references to the number 288, by doing so it is relatively easy to ascertain which number applies to the land where the summit of the hill is situated, with this hill there are a number of clues, including the number 330 and its description as Mount House Buildings, this reference applies to the house that gave its name to this hill in the original P30 lists on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website.

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Carnedd Wen

Name:  Gravel Pit Field

Previously Listed Name:  The Mount 

Summit Height:  154.9m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  126

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 22598 16703 

 

Drop:  c 47m

For details on the survey of Gravel Pit Field

Myrddyn Phillips (August 2016)

Mapping Mountains – Summit Relocations – 100m Twmpau

Gravel Pit Field (SJ 225 167)

There has been a Summit Relocation to the listing of 100m Twmpau (thirty welsh metre prominences and upward) hills due to a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000, and these details are retrospective as the survey that resulted in this summit relocation was conducted on 8^th August 2015.

The survey was conducted in the lower hills of the Carnedd Wen range, between the small communities of Deuddwr and Collfryn, these are situated between the A495 to the west and the A483 to the east.

The hill was surveyed in the company of Alex Cameron during a multi hill bagging day when the sun beat down and we visited nine P30 Twmpau hills with seven of them being Trimbled.

The name of the land where the summit of this hill is situated is Gravel Pit Field and this was derived from the Tithe map, with the hill having been listed as The Mount in the original P30 lists that appeared on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this was a name taken from the farm which is situated southward of this hill's summit. 

Prior to the survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 the position of the summit was listed as that of its triangulation pillar which is submerged in a hedge beside a narrow country lane.  This trig pillar has a 153.951m flush bracket height adjoined to it and is given the rounded up height of 154m on current Ordnance Survey maps, with its flush bracket given the position of SJ 22556 16673 in the OS Trig Database.  However, higher ground exists on the opposite side of the lane in a field.

The position of the relocated summit is at SJ 22598 16703 and is the top of featureless ground a few metres from a hedge in a field, this is not given a spot height on current Ordnance Survey maps but the survey result with the Trimble gave it as 0.99m higher than the flush bracket on the triangulation pillar and approximately 50 metres north-eastward from where it stands in a hedge.

The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Carnedd Wen

Summit Height:  154.9m (converted to OSGM15)

Name:  Gravel Pit Field

OS 1:50,000 map:  126

Summit Grid Reference (New Position):  SJ 22598 16703 

 

Drop:  c 47m

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the new summit position of Gravel Pit Field, with the old position of the summit opposite the gate in the centre right of this photograph

For details on the survey that relocated the summit of this hill please click {here}

Myrddyn Phillips (August 2015)

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Carnedd Wen

08.08.15  Gravel Pit Field (SJ 225 167), Gravel Pit Field (SJ 233 171) and Gors Leasow (SJ 228 180)  

Courthouse Bank (SJ 247 183)

Our next three hills formed a neat triangle as we continued east and then north with the first of the three having been listed as The Mount in the P30 lists that appear of Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, and which is now listed as Gravel Pit Field, with this name deriving from the Tithe map.  This hill is listed as being 154m high on current Ordnance Survey maps after the 153.951m flush bracket height adjoined to its triangulation pillar which is situated in a hedge beside the narrow lane which heads from west to east across the summit ridge.  This trig pillar is listed as Mount Farm in the OS Trig Database and the name I had previously used for the hill of The Mount comes from the farm to the south of the summit.

As I drove east from our last hill; Y Gaer (SJ 204 155), Alex navigated and once at the top of the road beside the summit of our next hill he said ‘there it is’, I looked and then looked a bit more, but still could not see the trig pillar, I had to go straight up to the hedge and peer in to it, to get a view, and then it was only a partial one as the rest of the trig pillar was submerged in the hedge.  We parked opposite the trig next to a gate and it was obvious that ground in the adjacent field on the opposite side of the lane from where the trig was situated was higher than it.

Somewhere in there is a trig pillar.  Can you spot it?

Once in the field we chose the spot for Trimble placement and as I set the equipment up Alex went to examine the trig pillar.  As the Trimble gathered its five minutes of data Alex walked down the road and we chatted through the hedge.  After the Trimble was packed away I clambered over the gate and went to have a quick look at the trig from the opposite side, even from its adjacent field it was still submerged in the hedge but at least more of it was on view.

Gathering data from the summit of Gravel Pit Field

A bit more of the trig pillar is on view from its adjacent field

Our next hill lay a mile to our east and is given the name of Ty Top in the P30 listings on Geoff’s website, this name appears on the map but in all likelihood it applies to a hoses which is situated just below the summit of the hill, again the Tithe map names the field where the summit of this hill is situated as another Gravel Pit Field. 

We parked very near to the summit of the hill on the opposite side of the road from where a gate gave access onto the summit field.  Alex slowly walked ahead as we were being watched by a grazing herd of cows and our route up the field lay straight through them.

Approaching the summit of the second Gravel Pit Field

As the Trimble gathered its data I took a number of photos of Alex standing between the Trimble and the cows, with one of them being inquisitive enough to slowly edge its way forward toward Alex for an enquiring sniff and rub of its head.  Across the Severn Valley the Breiddin leapt up from the landscape with Rodney’s Pillar firmly pointing skyward.

Gathering data at the summit of  the second Gravel Pit Field

The summit of this hill would only take a couple of minutes to visit from where we had parked, but it was good to take our time and wait for the Trimble to do its stuff, during the time when it gathered data I looked around and summer bounced back at me with dulled greens and warm blue skies, it was good to be out on the hill, even though some of our chosen ones for the day were no more than quick visits to high fields.

As we got back to the car I stopped a passing tractor and chatted to one of the local farmers, he had never heard a name for this hill or the field where its summit is situated, he happily waved his goodbye’s, laughing as he did so, saying ‘I’m making hay while the sun shines’, we both smiled at this as we got back into the car and headed off to the next hill.

I drove through the small community of Deuddwr toward our next hill which is listed as Bryn Trewylan in the P30 lists on Geoff’s website, this is another partly invented name taken from Trewylan Hall which is situated to the south of the hill’s summit, with the hill now listed as Gors Leasow based on detail from the Tithe map.  We wondered what way to approach the hill and as there was no ‘private’ sign on the continuation of the paved road to the Hall I drove down it.  Our preferred option for ascent was to follow the edge of forestry to the east of the summit but there wasn’t a suitable parking place so we continued to the Hall, parked, grabbed our stuff and walked on a footpath which gave access to the hill from its south-west.

During these little bagging trips Alex was visiting the hills without a rucksack whilst I went fully prepared with over trousers and Goretex jacket and a multitude of other stuff!  The footpath led us up into a field where we broke out from the adjacent forestry and walked up to a gate, passing on our way a beautifully and naturally carved dead tree that hung itself above the ground.

On our way up Gors Leasow

The beautifully shaped dead tree

Beyond lay a steep grass slope that took us to the summit, we spent a number of minutes assessing the land before I placed the Trimble on what we judged to be the high point, as it gathered data I stood watching a number of cows against a near fence as they stood watching me, all in the heat of the afternoon sun as the day was turning out to be a warm one.

Gathering data at the summit of Gors Leasow

After we had retraced our steps Alex navigated us to the base of Courthouse Bank (SJ 247 183) which I had visited earlier in the year on 20^th March to watch the partial eclipse of the sun.  I parked beside a gate straight at the base of the hill and watched Alex run up it as I very happily remained at the car, standing beside it soaking up the sun and taking a few photos of Alex on the summit, about five minutes after setting off he was back at the car.  Next stop was the forested summit of Bryn Mawr which will be detailed in the next Trimble blog post.

Alex at the summit of Courthouse Bank

Survey Result:

Gravel Pit Field (significant name change)

Summit Height:  154.9m (converted to OSGM15)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 22598 16703 (summit relocation confirmed)

Drop:  c 47m

Dominance:  30.33%

Gravel Pit Field (significant name change)

Summit Height:  153.4m (converted to OSGM15)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 23345 17175

Drop:  37m

Dominance:  24.11%

Gors Leasow (significant name change)

Summit Height:  161.6m (converted to OSGM15)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 22864 18055

Drop:  c 51m

Dominance:  31.57%

For further details please consult the Trimble survey spreadsheet click {here}