Showing posts with label Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539). Show all posts
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Sunday, 28 November 2021

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales

 

Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from detail on contemporary maps produced from Ordnance Survey data and from LIDAR analysis and a subsequent Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539)

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are: 

Y Trichant The 300m Hills of Wales.  Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Moel y Gamelin group of hills, which are situated in the north-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A2), and it is positioned with minor roads to its north, east and south, the B5430 road to its west and the A525 road farther to its south, and has the village of Bwlchgwyn towards the east south-east. 

The hill appeared in the original Welsh 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, under the transposed and invented name of Gwern Hill, with an accompanying note stating; Name from hall to the South-West.


Gwern Hill353mSJ251543117256Name from hall to the South-West

                 

During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them or as in this instance transpose the name of a hall and add the word Hill to it.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historic documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, occasionally even when research is conducted an appropriate name for the hill may not be found, and on such occasions the listing protocol is to use the point (Pt. 353.6m) notation, and for this hill this is such an example. 

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales is Pt. 353.6m, and this is being used as the author has not found an appropriate name for the hill either through historic research and / or local enquiry. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Moel y Gamelin 

Name:  Pt. 353.6m 

Previously Listed Name:  Gwern Hill 

OS 1:50,000 map:  117

Summit Height:  353.6m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 24997 53989 (Trimble GeoXH 6000) 

Bwlch Height:  c 322m (interpolation) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 24041 53999 (interpolation) 

Drop:  c 32m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and interpolated bwlch) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (November 2021)




 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wednesday, 24 November 2021

Mapping Mountains – Summit Relocations – Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales

 

Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539) 

There has been a Summit Relocation to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their location, the drop and status of the hill derived from detail on contemporary maps produced from Ordnance Survey data and from LIDAR analysis and a subsequent Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539)

The criteria for the list that this summit relocation applies to are: 

Y Trichant- The 300m Hills of Wales – Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is being listed by the point (Pt. 353.6m) notation as an appropriate name for it either through local enquiry and / or historic research has not been found by the author, and it is adjoined to the Moel y Gamelin group of hills, which are situated in the north-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A2), and it is positioned with minor roads to its north, east and south, the B5430 road to its west and the A525 road farther to its south, and has the village of Bwlchgwyn towards the east south-east. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

When the original 300m height band of Welsh P30 hills was published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was listed under the transposed and invented name of Gwern Hill with a 353m summit height, based on the spot height that appeared on the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map of the day and which was positioned at SJ 251 543.  This 353m height is based on an old imperial Surface Height of 1158.3ft (353.1m) that appears on the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

The summit of this hill was subsequently listed as a twin top with the prioritised summit position relocated when the Ordnance Survey Vector Map local hosted on the Geograph website and which was entitled the Interactive Coverage Map became available online.  This mapping had many spot heights not on other publicly available maps and for this hill a 353m spot height appeared positioned at SJ 250 539. 

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR image of Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539)

LIDAR analysis confirms the top positioned at SJ 249 539 as being higher than 353.1m and as this summit has now been surveyed with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 it is this result that is being prioritised for listing purposes, and this comes within the parameters of the Summit Relocations used within this page heading, these parameters are: 

The term Summit Relocations applies to when the high point is positioned in a different field, to a different feature such as a conifer plantation, within a different map contour, a different point where a number of potential summit positions are within close proximity, when natural ground or the natural and intact summit is confirmed compared to a higher point such as a raised field boundary or covered reservoir that is considered a relatively recent man-made construct, or a relocation of approximately 100 metres or more in distance from either the position of a map spot height or from where the summit of the hill was previously thought to exist. 

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Pt. 353.6m

Therefore, the summit height produced by the Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey is 353.6m and this is positioned at SJ 24997 53989, this position is not given a spot height on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer map, and is approximately 380 metres southward from where the previously listed summit is positioned. 

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Moel y Gamelin 

Name:  Pt. 353.6m 

OS 1:50,000 map:  117

Summit Height:  353.6m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Summit Grid Reference (New Position):  SJ 24997 53989 (Trimble GeoXH 6000) 

Bwlch Height:  c 322m (interpolation) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 24041 53999 (interpolation) 

Drop:  c 32m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and interpolated bwlch) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (November 2021)




 

 

 

 

Tuesday, 23 November 2021

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Moel y Gamelin

 

16.09.21  Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539) 

Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539)

This hill proved to be my last of three walks of the day.  I had considered doing more, but time and inclination meant this did not happen.  The summit of this hill is situated to the east of Gwern Hall, whose rough access track I had mistakenly driven up, thinking it was the minor road leading to where I wanted to park.  I soon realised my error, reversed my inward route and turned up the next paved road and parked just below Tan-y-bryn, whose occupants I talked to on my way down from the hill. 

It was proving to be a lovely late afternoon with blue sky above interspersed with white and grey cloud, with darkened sky further north-east which illuminated in direct sunlight.  There is a special quality to grey sky when struck by sunlight, it enhances foreground colour and adds a deep and rich coloured backdrop, when this happens I often stop and gaze. 

From where I parked a good track which is also a public footpath leads past Tan-y-bryn to a higher house, it was here that I met the most delightful woman.  She was walking with the aid of two sticks and her pet dog wagged its tail in my direction, she told me that he loved meeting strangers.  I stopped and we talked at length about the hill just above her house.  She was aged 90 and was full of knowledge of her surrounding area having lived here for more than 50 years.  She told me that her house was originally a Tŷ-unnos; a house erected overnight and thus giving rights to the occupants to stay.  The house has been developed since these days, but part of an original wall is still intact, she showed me by extending her arms the approximate width of this wall.  I could have stopped for a while longer, just listening and asking questions, but I was still considering another hill after this walk, which when I got back to my car did not materialise.  Thanking her for her time, she kindly directed me on my onward route following the continuation of the public footpath through a near gate and up the adjacent field behind her house. 

Looking across the upper field toward the summit

Prior to visiting this hill I had used LIDAR to analyse its summit and had come prepared with the ten figure grid reference for it, and with the Trimble acting as a hand-help device it eventually led me toward its high point, but not before a rather circuitous route via a bench which I very happily and lazily sat on for a number of minutes. 

LIDAR image of Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539)

LIDAR places the summit of this hill close to the second fence along the summit field.  I followed the public footpath up and then veered right and walked up toward a line of stunted trees standing atop a small embankment that I took as the first fence.  I continued in the same direction and arrived at a very large and dense outcrop of gorse that from this direction was impenetrable.  I decided to circumnavigate it to try and find what was on the other side, so therefore crossed a barb wired fence and continued in the same direction on the other side.  This just led downhill, but gorse and brambles meant there were few crossing opportunities to get back on the other side of the fence.  I eventually found a spot to re-cross which conveniently was beside one of a number of wooden benches dotted across this and an adjacent field.  Once across the fence I readily sat and relaxed and wondered how to get back through the mass of gorse to where I had been a few minutes earlier.  Leaving the bench I walked up to the corner of the field on the opposing side of the thick gorse to where I had been a minutes earlier and turned the Trimble on to check the grid reference against that produced by LIDAR.  I was about ten metres from the high point and on the wrong side of the mass of gorse.  The high point was where I had originally crossed the fence, which I found rather humorous. 

Following the gorse downhill back toward the field adjacent to the old woman’s house I eventually found a gate which gave me access around the gorse, I was soon back where I had started from, this time knowing I was at the summit! 

The Trimble was soon set up under a large gorse bush with the LIDAR ten figure grid reference indicating the high point to be just in the gorse.  It took about 15 minutes for the 0.1m accuracy level to be attained before data should be logged, during this time I happily picked large blackberries from the mass of brambles overhanging the near fence. 

Gathering data at the summit of 353.6m (SJ 249 539)

Once the equipment was activated I stood back and waited for five minutes of data to be gathered and stored.  During this I looked north across the brambled fence toward the top that was originally listed as the qualifying summit for this hill, which by eye looked similar in height to where I was standing.  But for me today I was just going to survey this summit. 

The view across to the original listed summit of this hill

During the day I had spent much time calling at fishery’s, cottages, farms and houses asking about names of hills, none of these proved fruitful, but all were fun, meeting some lovely people when doing so, and on my return from this summit I wandered back down my inward route and stopped at Tan-y-bryn where three people were outside, one being the daughter of the lovely 90 year old who I had spoken with earlier.  We talked for 20 minutes or so about all manner of things, including the bombing of Liverpool during the 2nd World War. 

I left knowing that this was my last hill of the day and wandered back to my car to change.  It was still a beautiful late afternoon as I did so; I took my time and savoured the warm sunshine.  I had come well prepared earlier in the day with details for summit and bwlch positions for nine hills, I knew that my late start meant that all would not be visited, but thought that four or five may be so.  It turned out I only did three, but they were lovely and meeting a number of people en route just enhanced the experience. 

 

Survey Result: 

 

Pt. 353.6m (significant name change)

Summit Height:  353.6m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 24997 53989 (Trimble GeoXH 6000) (summit relocation confirmed)

Bwlch Height:  c 322m (interpolation)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 24041 53999 (interpolation)

Drop:  c 32m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and interpolated bwlch) (Sub-Trichant reclassified to Trichant)

Dominance:  8.94% (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and interpolated bwlch)

 

 

For further details please consult the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet

 

 

 

Wednesday, 13 January 2021

Mapping Mountains – Hill Reclassifications – Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales

 

Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539) – Sub-Trichant reclassified to Trichant

There has been confirmation of a reclassification to the list of Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their location, the drop and status of the hill derived from detail on contemporary maps produced from Ordnance Survey data and from LIDAR analysis and a subsequent Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey  conducted by Myrddyn Phillips.

LIDAR image of Pt. 353.7m (SJ 249 539)

The criteria for the list that this reclassification applies to are: 

Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales – Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is being listed by the point (Pt. 353.6m) notation as an appropriate name for it either through local enquiry and / or historic research has not been found by the author, and it is adjoined to the Moel y Gamelin group of hills, which are situated in the north-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A2), and it is positioned with minor roads to its north, east and south and has the B5430 road to its west and farther afield the A525 road to its south, and has the village of Bwlchgwyn towards the east south-east. 

When the original 300m height band of Welsh P30 hills was published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was included in the Hills to be surveyed sub list that accompanied the main P30 list, as it was considered not to meet the criteria then used for the main P30 category. 

After the P30 lists were standardised, and interpolated heights and drop values also included, this hill was listed with an estimated c 31m of drop based on the 353m summit spot height that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map and which is positioned at SJ 251 543 and an estimated c 322m bwlch height based on interpolation of 5m contouring that appear on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR analysis resulted in the confirmation of this hill’s summit relocation and as the summit of this hill has now been surveyed with the Trimble GeoXH 6000, it is this result that is being prioritised for listing purposes.

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Pt. 353.6m (SJ 249 539)

Therefore, the reclassification of this hill from Sub-Trichant status is due to LIDAR summit analysis and a subsequent Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey and detail on contemporary maps produced from Ordnance Survey data, resulting in a 353.6m summit height and an estimated c 322m bwlch height, with these values giving this hill an estimated c 32m of drop, which is sufficient for it to be classified as a Trichant.

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Moel y Gamelin 

Name:  Pt. 353.6m 

OS 1:50,000 map:  117

Summit Height:  353.6m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)  

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 24997 53989 (Trimble GeoXH 6000) 

Bwlch Height:  c 322m (interpolation) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 24041 53999 (interpolation) 

Drop:  c 32m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and interpolated bwlch) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (January 2021)