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Monday, 15 November 2021

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – Y Pedwarau – The 400m Hills of Wales and Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales


Cnepyn Cerrig (SN 706 460) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Pedwarau – The 400m Hills of Wales and Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams. 

Cnepyn Cerrig (SN 706 460)

The criteria for the two listings that this name change applies to are: 

Y PedwarauThe 400m Hills of Wales.  Welsh hills at or above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop, accompanying the main Y Pedwarau list are five categories of sub hills, with this hill being listed in the 390m Sub-Pedwar category.  The criteria for 390m Sub-Pedwar status being all Welsh hills at or above 390m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams and is published on Mapping Mountains in Google Doc format.

Y Pedwarau - The 400m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams

Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales.  Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Elenydd group of hills, which are situated in the central part of the Mid and West Wales Region (Region B, Sub-Region B2), and it is positioned with minor roads to its west and south-east, and the A482 road farther to its south-west, and has the small community of Cwrtycadno towards the south-west. 

The hill appeared in the original Welsh 400m P30 list published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the name of Cefn Branddu, which is a prominent name that appears to the north-east of this hill’s summit on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer map.  This is also the name the hill was listed by in the 1st edition of the Y Pedwarau published by Europeaklist in May 2013.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Prior to visiting this hill I contacted Irwel Jones; the farmer from Aber Branddu (SN 708 455) to ask permission to park at his farm and use the track leading north-westward from it to visit this hill, during the conversation Irwel named this hill as Cnepyn Cerrig, with its summit named as Pen Cerrig. 

After visiting this hill we descended to Aber Branddu and met Irwel and his father; Eirwyn.  With the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map opened on the roof of my car and the hill directly above us, Aled proceeded to ask questions about this hill and others where Irwel grazes sheep on.  Many upland place-names proceeded to be given, including that of Cnepyn Cerrig for this hill. 

Irwel and Eirwyn Jones

Once back home Aled scrutinised a number of old maps and with the information given by Eirwyn and Irwel he detailed a timeline including that of field boundaries and the history of what land the name of Cefn Branddu applied to.  With the field boundaries confirming that Cefn Branddu applies to the entire mountain, including that of the higher adjacent hill positioned at SN 699 452,  Aled’s conclusion was to use the prioritised name that both Irwel and his father; Eirwyn gave us for this hill, and that is Cnepyn Cerrig. 

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Pedwarau – The 400m Hills of Wales and Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales is Cnepyn Cerrig, and this was derived from local enquiry. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Elenydd 

Name:  Cnepyn Cerrig 

Previously Listed Name:  Cefn Branddu 

OS 1:50,000 map:  146, 147 

Summit Height:  399.3m (converted to OSGM15) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 70687 46081 

Bwlch Height:  353.6m (converted to OSGM15) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 70185 46118 

Drop:  45.7m 

 

Aled Williams and Myrddyn Phillips (November 2021)

 

 

  

Monday, 1 November 2021

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Esgair Wen


04.09.21  Banc y Graig (SN 699 452) and Cnepyn Cerrig (SN 706 460) 

Cnepyn Cerrig (SN 706 460) 

When the initial compilation of the list that is now known as the Y Pedwarau – The 400m Hills of Wales was completed in November 2002 and sent to Rob Woodall who installed it on the RHB database, Cnepyn Cerrig (listed as Cefn Branddu, with the change favouring the local prioritised name) was included as a Pedwar based on the small uppermost 400m ring contour that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer map.  Subsequently, this hill remained listed as a Pedwar when the list was submitted for publication on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website in October 2004. 

This hill changed status from a Pedwar to a 390m Sub-Pedwar in May 2013 when the Y Pedwarau was published by Europeaklist.  This change was based on a 1,311ft (399.6m) Ordnance Survey height that appears at or near to the summit of this hill on the 1:10,560 map.  It has remained outside of the main Pedwar category ever since. 

Cnepyn Cerrig had been prioritised for an accurate survey since getting my Trimble GeoXH 6000, but as is the way of things, life and other stuff always seemed to get in the way.  However, the hill was finally visited today with six potential summit positions surveyed.  This will give a good spread for the height at its summit area and we’ll have to await post processing to find out if this hill breaks through the benchmark height of 400m. 

Prior to visiting I phoned Irwel Jones, the farmer from Aber Branddu to ask permission to park and use the track from his farm to visit these two hills.  The farm is positioned to the south of, and at the base of Cnepyn Cerrig.  He was a lovely person to speak with and during the conversation referred to the hill we had our main surveying aims concentrated on, as Cnepyn Cerrig.  He had no problem with this request and said he hoped to see us when we visited.  I was visiting these hills with Aled, and we hoped to meet Irwel when at the farm to make further place-name enquiries for the land he puts out sheep to graze, which includes Cnepyn Cerrig as well as Mynydd Mallaen. 

We were parked in the Aber Branddu farmyard at 9.40am, having met in Caersŵs at just before 8.00am.  It had been a good journey down with any lingering clag on the Mid Walian hills giving way to brightening conditions as I drove on the narrow minor lanes leading to Irwel’s farm. 

Before heading up the track we spoke with Irwel’s wife, who told us that he was working down valley, but would be back at lunchtime for the remainder of the day.  Thanking her, we then headed up the track. 

The track rises above Aber Branddu farm and heads for the bwlch between Cnepyn Cerrig and its higher and adjacent hill of Banc y Graig.  Conditions were warming up with broken cloud giving direct sunlight, which was pleasant but thankfully never overbearing.  The track headed on the eastern side of a steep stream laden cwm, on its western side red berried rowans stood out against the greened slopes of ferned bracken. 

The north-easterly slopes of Banc y Graig

We continued on a left hand branch of the track and crossed the steam, opting to visit the higher Banc y Graig first.  Beyond the stream the track soon petered out and continued as a vehicle track on rising ground.  This led to a fence, beyond which was the summit field. 

Arriving at the summit of Banc y Graig we both assessed the lay of land and judged ground away from another fence to be where the summit of the hill was positioned.  The Trimble was soon set up gathering data.  During data collection Aled walked down to admire the view back up valley and across to the imposing bulk of Mynydd Mallaen.  Whilst I walked a short distance to the north-west of the equipment and looked back to where it was set up, my initial intention was to gather a second data set beside the fence, however its position looked good and we judged a second data set was not necessary. 

Gathering data at the summit of Banc y Graig

Once the Trimble was closed down and packed away we headed down across fields to the connecting bwlch with Cnepyn Cerrig.  This was relatively easy to pinpoint and again, the Trimble was soon set up and quietly beeping away gathering individual datum points.  During data collection a Red Kite circled overhead, where once this would have been an extraordinary sight, nowadays it is common, and thankfully so.  These birds portray a grace of flight, seemingly effortless with their distinctive forked tails and streamlined bodies always a welcome sight. 

Gathering data at the bwlch of Cnepyn Cerrig

Leaving the bwlch we walked across the continuation of the closely cropped grazing field toward a gate giving access to the upper part of Cnepyn Cerrig, whose summit cairn now dominated the view ahead.  This cairn is relatively large for a hill of such height, with a number of rocks on and buried around its periphery. 

Banc y Graig (SN 699 452)

Aled nearing the summit cairn on Cnepyn Cerrig

When on the summit we set to work and debated how many surveys were required and importantly from what positions data should be gathered.  Ground to the north of the cairn looked as if it slightly rose from the base of the jumble of rock, whereas ground at the immediate south of the cairn was leading slightly downhill. 

Gathering one of the six data sets from the summit area of Cnepyn Cerrig

In all, six positions were surveyed, we could have taken more, but our aim was to determine whether this hill is over 400m in height and these data sets will give a good indication toward this. 

Gathering one of the six data sets from the summit area of Cnepyn Cerrig

Having spent an hour on the summit the Trimble was finally packed away and we descended toward the upper part of the track.  This gave good views over the steep sided river valley enclosing the Afon Cothi toward the bulk of Mynydd Mallaen, a hill we now wanted to visit. 

The track led back to Aber Bronddu farm where Irwel and his father; Eirwyn, joined us.  Aled unfolded the 1:25,000 map and the next 20 minutes was another one of those wonderful experiences where a farmer imparts the knowledge of their local land.  Much of this was done in Welsh; I understood some of the names given, but sadly not the detail of conversation.  This didn’t make it any less enjoyable as Welsh as a spoken language has a gentle feel to it and Irwel’s father was now pointing toward various streams, cymoedd and standing stones, giving many names that don’t appear on contemporary Ordnance Survey maps. 

Irwel and Eirwyn Jones of Aber Branddu farm

It was a delight to meet these two farmers; father and son and listen to them talk about the land they know well and work.  This also gave time to rest, as the early afternoon was now warming and we still had the ascent of Mynydd Mallaen ahead of us, so thanking Irwel and his father for their time I drove the short distance back up the narrowing valley to Bwlch-y-rhiw, where earlier in the morning we had asked permission to park.  Mynydd Mallaen looked daunting from this perspective, but a good green quad bike track led the majority of the way up it.  It still proved a slog to get to its high point though! 

 

Survey Result: 

 

Banc y Graig

Summit Height:  408.3m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 69992 45216 (Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Bwlch Height:  c 309m (interpolation)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 69555 47145 (interpolation)

Drop:  c 99m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and interpolated bwlch) (Hump reclassified to Subhump)

Dominance:  24.33% (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and interpolated bwlch)

 

 

 

Cnepyn Cerrig (significant name change)

Summit Height:  399.3m (converted to OSGM15)

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 70687 46081

Bwlch Height:  353.6m (converted to OSGM15)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 70185 46118

Drop:  45.7m

Dominance:  11.45%

 

 

For further details please consult the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet