Showing posts with label Craignant Hill. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Craignant Hill. Show all posts

Tuesday, 23 August 2022

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – The Welsh P15s

 

Craignant Hill (SJ 118 164) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Welsh P15s, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

Craignant Hill (SJ 118 164)

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Welsh P15s – Welsh hills with 15m minimum drop, irrespective of their height, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Welsh Sub-P15s, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills with 14m or more and below 15m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 10th May 2019. 

The Welsh P15s by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Foel Cedig group of hills, which are situated in the southern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A3), and it is positioned encircled by minor roads, with the B4393 road farther to its north-west, the B4382 road farther to its west, the A495 road farther to its south-east and the A490 road farther to its north-east, and has the town of Llanfyllin towards the north-east.

When the listing that became known as The Welsh P15s was being compiled, this hill was listed under the point (Pt. 329m) notation with an estimated c 14m of drop, based on the 329m summit spot height that appeared on the Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website and which was entitled the Interactive Coverage Map and an estimated c 315m bwlch height based on interpolation of 10m contouring that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

When visiting this hill I met the local farmer; John Evans, who farms from Tyncelyn which is situated towards the south-west of the hill.  John farms the land this hill is a part of and when I met him he was shepherding sheep up the lane to their field.  Once the sheep were penned in we talked about the hill that was adjacent to us.  John explained that although he now farms this land the hill is still known as Craignant Hill, through its past association with Craignant-mawr; a farm to the immediate north of the hill.  I asked John if its adjacent hill positioned at SJ 119 165 and which is given twin top map status with summits of 329m and which the Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey confirmed as higher with a summit height of 329.5m had a separate name, he said no, both hills are known by the same name; Craignant Hill. 

John Evans on the right with Aled Watkins

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Welsh P15s is Craignant Hill and this was derived from local enquiry. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Foel Cedig 

Name:  Craignant Hill

Previously Listed Name:  Pt. 329m 

OS 1:50,000 map:  125

Summit Height:  329.3m (converted to OSGM15)                                                           

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 11893 16416 

Bwlch Height:  311.4m (converted to OSGM15) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 11967 16505 

Drop:  18.0m 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (August 2022)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friday, 19 August 2022

Mapping Mountains – Hill Reclassifications – The Welsh P15s


Craignant Hill (SJ 118 164) – Welsh Sub-P15 reclassified to Welsh P15

There has been a reclassification to the list of The Welsh P15s, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

Craignant Hill (SJ 118 164)

The criteria for the list that this reclassification applies to are:The Welsh P15s – Welsh hills with 15m minimum drop, irrespective of their height, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Welsh Sub-P15s, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills with 14m or more and below 15m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 10th May 2019. 

The Welsh P15s by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is listed by is Craignant Hill and this was derived by local enquiry and it is adjoined to the Foel Cedig group of hills, which are situated in the southern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A3), and it is positioned encircled by minor roads, with the B4393 road farther to its north-west, the B4382 road farther to its west, the A495 road farther to its south-east and the A490 road farther to its north-east, and has the town of Llanfyllin towards the north-east.

When the listing that became known as The Welsh P15s was being compiled, this hill was included in the P14 sub list with an estimated c 14m of drop, based on the 329m summit spot height that appeared on the Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website and which was entitled the Interactive Coverage Map and an estimated c 315m bwlch height based on interpolation of 10m contouring that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until this hill was surveyed with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 that an accurate height for both its summit and connecting bwlch, and hence its drop could be ascertained. 

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the bwlch of Craignant Hill

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Craignant Hill

Therefore, the reclassification of this hill from Welsh Sub-P15 status is due to a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey, resulting in a 329.3m summit height and a 311.4m bwlch height, with these values giving this hill 18.0m of drop, which is sufficient for it to be included in the main list of The Welsh P15s. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Foel Cedig 

Name:  Craignant Hill 

OS 1:50,000 map:  125

Summit Height:  329.3m (converted to OSGM15)                                                           

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 11893 16416 

Bwlch Height:  311.4m (converted to OSGM15) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 11967 16505 

Drop:  18.0 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (August 2022)

 

 

 

  

Thursday, 4 May 2017

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales


Craignant Hill (SJ 119 165)

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichantwith the height, drop, highest summit and status of the hill being confirmed by a Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey which took place on the 6th April 2017.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

Y Trichant These are the Welsh hills at and above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop,  with the introduction to the re-naming and publication history of this list appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13th May 2017.

The hill is a part of the Y Berwyn range, this group of hills is situated in the south-eastern part of North Wales (Region A, Sub-Region A4), and is positioned above the town of Llanfyllin to the north-east and the village of Meifod to the south-east.  

Craignant Hill (SJ 119 165)

The hill appeared in the 300m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under the partly invented name of Pen Craignant-mawr, with an accompanying note stating; Name from buildings to the North.  


Pen Craignant-mawr
    329m
    SJ119166
    125
239
    Included by contour configuration. Name from buildings to the North


During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historical documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found, and in the case of this hill it was the local farmer who works the land where the summit of this hill is situated who gave the name of Craignant Hill.

John Evans on the right with Aled Watkins

The local farmer is John Evans who farms from Tyncelyn which is situated towards the south-west of the hill.  John farms the land that the hill is a part of and when I met him he was shepherding sheep up the country lane to their field, once the sheep were penned in we talked about the hill which was adjacent to us.  John explained that although he now farms this land the hill is still known by the name of Craignant Hill, through its past association with Craignant-mawr; which is a farm to the immediate north of the hill.  I asked if he had ever heard a separate name for the other top (the hill has two distinct summits, which are close to one another and given the same map height and which the Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey separated), he said no, they are both known by the same name; Craignant Hill.     

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant is Craignant Hill and this was derived from local enquiry. 


The full details for the hill are:


Group:  Y Berwyn

Name:  Craignant Hill

Previously Listed Name:  Pen Craignant-mawr
 
Summit Height:  329.5m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  125

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 11926 16590 
  
Drop:  30.3m (converted to OSGM15)




Myrddyn Phillips (May 2017)



Tuesday, 2 May 2017

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Y Berwyn


06.04.17  Moel Llaethbwlch (SJ 113 167), Craignant Hill (SJ 119 165) and Craignant Hill (SJ 118 164)

Moel Llaethbwlch (SH 113 167)

With the fine weather continuing I wanted to edge my Welsh P30 total up from 997 to 999 and picked two hills relatively close to one another above the town of Llanfyllin.

I parked close to the bwlch of my first planned hill; Moel Llaethbwlch squeezing my car onto the wide grass verge, as I laced up my walking boots a quad bike zoomed round an adjacent field, I made a mental note to try and talk with the farmer if he was still around after the first of three potential bwlch positions for Moel Llaethbwlch had been Trimbled.  This proved to be beside the minor road a few metres south-west from where I had parked.

As the Trimble gathered the last of its allotted 300 datum points the quad bike reappeared and I waved and shouted over, a few minutes later the Trimble was packed away and I was chatting with Mike Evans who farms the land to the west of the narrow lane where the bwlch is situated on or near to.  It was good to speak to Mike, he proved extremely friendly and helpful, confirming the name of Moel Llaethbwlch and Moel y Fronllwyd, but could not help me with the name of my second planned hill of the day which has twin map heighted summits of 329m.  I told Mike all about the Trimble and the place-name research I conducted and he kindly gave me permission to head over his fields toward the summit of Moel Llaethbwlch.

Gathering data at the first of three potential bwlch positions for Moel Llaethbwlch

Mike Evans

As Mike zoomed off on his quad bike I proceeded to gather a further two data sets at the remaining potential bwlch positions for Moel Llaethbwlch and then headed toward its summit.

Gathering data at the second potential bwlch position and what turned out to be the critical bwlch of Moel Llaethbwlch

Gathering data at the third of three potential bwlch positions for Moel Llaethbwlch

Craignant Hill from near the bwlch of Moel Llaethbwlch

When speaking with Mike we both commented what a fantastic view was all around, with the shapely up thrust of Cadair Idris on the horizon and the high Aran dominating the view north-westward, but he told me the view from the summit of Moel Llaethbwlch was even better and when I arrived on top it didn’t disappoint.  Occasionally a relatively small hill is positioned just so, with its prominence seemingly more dominant and its views spinning ones head in all directions, and Moel Llaethbwlch is such a hill, a little beauty.

The distant Cadair Idris

The distant Aran

By now the sun had burst through the morning’s high cloud and blue skies and warmth predominated.  After the customary five minutes of data were gathered from the summit I headed down steep grassed ground to the next connecting bwlch.  I judged the critical point to be positioned on the edge of the minor lane and set the Trimble up on my rucksack and hoped that no cars would come this way for the duration of data collection, none did.

Gathering data from the summit of Moel Llaethbwlch

Gathering data at the critical bwlch of Craignant Hill

I now thought that only two surveys remained, the figure proved to be five as I gathered two data sets from the northerly summit of the next hill.  During the time that the Trimble beeped away collecting its all-important data I stood back taking in the view and watching the sheep sometimes watching me.

Gathering data at the summit of Craignant Hill


Looking across from the northerly higher to the southerly lower of the two tops of Craignant Hill

On a whim I decided to survey the connecting bwlch between the two 329m map heighted summits and decided that as the valley to valley traverse was relatively extensive I should take two data sets, the second of which proved visually to be lower than the first.  However, I didn’t really care how many survey I took as the sun gave welcome warmth and the land was peaceful and the views were distant.

Gathering data at the connecting bwlch between the two tops of Craignant Hill

After the second bwlch survey I gathered the Trimble up and proceeded to the top of the southerly of the two 329m map heighted summits and gathered the last five minutes data set of the day. All that remained was the walk back to my car on the minor lane as the sun gleamed down.

Gathering data at the lower of the two top of Craignant Hill


Looking across from the southerly lower to the northerly higher of the two tops of Craignant Hill

Arriving at my car a farmer and his two sons were busy unloading sheep in to the adjacent field, I chatted with the farmer; David Evans for ten minutes or so and he suggested that I should visit John Evans at Tyncelyn and showed me on my map where this farm was.  John farms the land where the two 329m map heighted summits are positioned and David explained that he should be able to confirm the hill’s name.

As I approached Tyncelyn a quad bike shot down the entrance drive, I flagged it down and spoke with Aled Watkins, who works for John.  After explaining my interest in upland place-names he whizzed off and said that they were bringing a number of sheep up the lane and that John would be following him up in ten minutes or so.  I waited in the sunshine, took my walking boots off and opened the gate for Aled as he reappeared with a small lamb under his arm; he then waited for John to appear heading up the lane with 30 – 40 sheep and four sheep dogs in attendance.  When John appeared we shook hands and he quickly abandoned his quad bike in favour of shepherding the sheep on foot, I followed in my car.  Half a mile up the lane and the sheep were penned in to their field and John and I chatted about the twin map heighted hill, he immediately told me that it’s known as Craignant Hill, with the old farm of Craignant-mawr being just north of the northern summit.  John pronounced the name as Crugnant Hill, and told me that he could speak just a little bit of Welsh; the hill is a part of John’s land and was easily pointed to over the near hedge.

Following John up the lane

Before leaving John and Aled, the name of a 200m Sub-Twmpau was confirmed, Aled had already told me its name when waiting for John to appear up the lane with the sheep as we were looking directly toward it and its unusual pole which is the lower remains of a wind turbine whose blades no longer exist, this hill has a 261m summit spot height and is positioned at SJ 110 151 and its name is Pentre Hill, with the farm of Pentre positioned to its north-west.

(L-R) Aled Watkins and John Evans

It was good to meet Mike, David, John and Aled and also good to investigate land that is close to where I live and yet I hadn’t been on these hills before.  It was also good to nudge my Welsh P30 total up to 999, just one more for the 1,000th.



Survey Result:


Moel Llaethbwlch

Summit Height:  372.1m (converted to OSGM15) (significant height revision)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 11335 16724

Bwlch Height:  328.8m (converted to OSGM15)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 11484 17236

Drop:  43.3m

Dominance:  11.63%






Summit Height:  329.5m (converted to OSGM15) (confirmed as higher than Craignant Hill positioned at SJ 11893 16416)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 11926 16590

Bwlch Height:  299.2m (converted to OSGM15)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 11692 16648

Drop:  30.3m

Dominance:  9.21%






Summit Height:  329.3m (converted to OSGM15) (confirmed as lower than Craignant Hill positioned at SJ 11926 16590)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 11893 16416

Bwlch Height:  311.4m (converted to OSGM15)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SJ 11967 16505


Dominance:  5.45%