Mapping Mountains – Summit Relocations – 200m Twmpau

Cae Cwar y Coed (SN 828 343) 

There has been a Summit Relocation to a hill that is listed in the 200m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Cae Cwar y Coed (SN 828 343)

The criteria for the list that this summit relocation applies to are:

200m Twmpau - Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 200m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is now listed by is Cae Cwar y Coed and this was derived from the Tithe map, and it is adjoined to the Mynydd Epynt group of hills, which are situated in the central part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with minor roads to its north-west and east, and the A40 road to its south, and has the town of Llanymddyfri (Llandovery) towards the west.

When the original 200m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was included in the main P30 list with a 248m summit height, based on the spot height that appears on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map at SN 82773 34291.  This position was subsequently changed to SN 82761 34285, based on on-site visits and GPS data recorded on the Hill Bagging website. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR summit image of Cae Cwar y Coed (SN 828 343)

LIDAR analysis gives the highest ground on this hill as 246.6m positioned at SN 82809 34336, and this position in relation to the previously listed summit position comes within the parameters of the Summit Relocations used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Summit Relocations applies when the high point of the hill is found to be positioned; in a different field, to a different feature such as in a conifer plantation,  within a different map contour, to a different point where a number of potential summit positions are within close proximity, when natural ground or the natural and intact summit of a hill is confirmed compared to a higher point such as a raised field boundary or covered reservoir that is considered a relatively recent man-made construct, or a relocation of approximately 100 metres or more in distance from either the position of a map spot height or from where the summit of the hill was previously thought to exist.

Therefore, the summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 246.6m and this is positioned at SN 82809 34336, this position is not given a spot height on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer map, and is approximately 50 metres north-eastward from the previously listed summit position and importantly it is also positioned in a different field. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Mynydd Epynt 

Name:  Cae Cwar y Coed 

OS 1:50,000 map:  160

Summit Height:  246.6m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference (New Position):  SN 82809 34336 (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Height:  215.4m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 83737 35272 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  31.2m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (March 2024)

 

 

 

  

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – 200m Twmpau

Cae Cwar y Coed (SN 828 343) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the 200m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR alanysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Cae Cwar y Coed (SN 828 343)

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are: 

200m Twmpau - Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height with 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 200m Sub-Twmpau with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Mynydd Epynt group of hills, which are situated in the central part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with minor roads to its north-west and east, and the A40 road to its south, and has the town of Llanymddyfri (Llandovery) towards the west. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

The hill appeared in the original Welsh 200m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, under the transposed name of Allt Llwyn-y-berllan, which is a prominent name that appears near the summit of this hill on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.

Allt Llwyn-y-berllan

248m

SN827344

160

12/187

 

During my early hill listing I paid little regard to name placement on the map, or the meaning of names and to what feature the name was appropriately applied to.  Therefore, I prioritised names for listing purposes that I now understand are either inappropriate or where another name is viewed as being more appropriate, with the previously listed name of Allt Llwyn-y-berllan applicable to land that does not take in the summit of this hill, with the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps giving appropriate name placement. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historic documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found. 

As the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales. 

Extract from the Tithe map

The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 2696 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Cae Cwar y Coed in the apportionments, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the parish of Llanfair-ar-y-bryn and in the county named as Carmarthenshire. 

Extract from the apportionments

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the 200m Twmpau is Cae Cwar y Coed and this was derived from the Tithe map. 

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Mynydd Epynt

Name:  Cae Cwar y Coed

Previously Listed Name:  Allt Llwyn-y-berllan   

OS 1:50,000 map:  160

Summit Height:  246.6m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 82809 34336 (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Height:  215.4m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 83737 35272 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  31.2m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (February 2022)