Showing posts with label Mynydd Trawsnant. Show all posts
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Monday, 23 October 2023

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Drygarn Fawr


16.09.23  Mynydd Trawsnant (SN 824 485) 

The summit area of Mynydd Trawsnant (SN 824 485)

Mynydd Trawsnant appears in a number of hill lists, including the Welsh Highlands – Uchafion Cymru, the Deweys and the 500m Twmpau.  Its summit position in these lists has recently been relocated due to LIDAR analysis conducted by Aled Williams. 

LIDAR summit image of Mynydd Trawsnant

Mynydd Trawsnant is one of many hills is this area that have been swamped by conifer plantation which forms a part of the extensive Tywi Forest.  However, recent visits to its relocated summit reported the forestry in this section felled with newly planted trees already in situ.  Because of this it was an ideal time to visit and gather Trimble data to compare to that of LIDAR.

I had visited its previously listed summit position once before when the barrier at the start of the forest track leading toward its summit was open, not wanting to pass on this invitation I drove up the track and parked close to its then recognised high point.  Before visiting the summit I heard the approaching sound of a forestry lorry and therefore quickly hid behind a tree.  Logging was in progress and not wanting to linger I quickly scampered up the forest ride to what was then considered its high point and just as quickly scampered back down before driving down the forest track to the minor paved road at its end.

Today, along with Aled, we wanted to gather data from the LIDAR high point.  Ideally another data set should be gathered from the old summit position, but again recent visits indicated this was still submerged in conifers.

It’s a long drive south close the eastern shore of Llyn Brianne to where the forest track heads up toward the summit of Mynydd Trawsnant.  Approaching the track we saw that the barrier was open giving access up the hill.  Driving toward the hill we had seen a number of notices relating to a race that was taking place and the arrows indicating the way ahead for the runners pointed up the same track, we wondered whether the barrier was open to give access to the runners and any support vehicles following the race. 

Parked and ready to tackle the relocated summit of Mynydd Trawsnant

Having driven up the track we parked as close to the summit as we could and set off walking at 8.55am as the first flecks of forecast rain began to push northward.  This would herald damp and misty conditions for the continuation of the walk Aled had planned.  However, for me I only had one summit to visit and this was ever so close to where we had parked. 

Setting off up the forest ride between the mature conifers and old summit position on the left and the felled forestry and new summit position on the right

A forest ride between the felled section and the remaining mature tees gave good access and relatively easy underfoot conditions over and close to the old summit position toward the slightly higher LIDAR summit which was ahead of us and to our right.  This as with many felled forested ground looked like an assault course, but thankfully none of it was difficult, although I did manage to almost sit in a water course as I slipped and fell. 

Typical felled forestry land made even more bleak by the grey overhead conditions and incoming rain

The Trimble was used as a hand-help GPS unit to zero in to the co-ordinates ascertained from LIDAR analysis.  When there we debated where the survey equipment should be set up and opted to align it with a patch of grass that was solid and stable.  As the Trimble collected data I sat on a tree stump and scribbled all necessary detail in my survey note book. 

Gathering data at the summit area of Mynydd Trawsnant

Once the equipment was packed away we reversed our inward route, but this time avoiding the water course and aiming for the corner of forest as it butts up against the open hill to its north.  This gave a semblance of what these hills were like before the infestation of conifers.  The open hillside was expansive, albeit with the customary thick and rough Elenydd summer grassland in evidence. 

Heading back to the forest track

Once back at the car I waved Aled off, who was continuing south wanting to visit two subs in the forest before breaking out of the conifers to visit Garn Wen, which is listed as a Dewey and lastly a Pedwar overlooking Llanwrtyd, where we had arranged for me to pick him up in the early afternoon. 

Aled heading off farther in to the forest for what proved a wet and misty few hours

I then set off driving back down the forest track, stopping once to speak with a man who was standing outside his vehicle setting up a small food and drink station for the runners in the race.  He told me there were 21 runners, although the number was originally higher with a number having recently pulled out.

Once out of the forest and back on the minor paved road close to Llyn Brianne I stopped and changed as the rain fell.  It looked a particularly murky scene with grey predominating with mist enclosing many near summits.  It took 55 minutes to drive from here to Llanwrtyd, stopping once to chat with a farmer.

Once at Llanwrtyd I found the car park we had arranged to meet at, read a book, sheltered from the rain and once this stopped walked in to town to find that Caffi Sosban served an all-day breakfast, which once Aled had completed his walk we visited and ate.  An excellent way to end a walk!      

 

Survey Result:

 

Mynydd Trawsnant                   

Summit Height:  516.6m (LIDAR)

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 82452 48564 (LIDAR) (summit relocation –Deweys) (summit relocation – 500m Twmpau and Welsh Highlands – Uchafion Cymru)

Bwlch Height:  378.3m (LIDAR)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 82781 50423 (LIDAR)

Drop:  138.3m (LIDAR)

Dominance:  26.77% (LIDAR)

 

 

For further details please consult the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet

  

Monday, 28 August 2023

Mapping Mountains - Summit Relocations – The 500-Metre Tops of England and Wales – Deweys


Mynydd Trawsnant (SN 824 485) 

There has been a Summit Relocation to a hill that is listed in the The 500-Metre Tops of England and Wales, with the summit height, col height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Aled Williams. 

LIDAR image of Mynydd Trawsnant (SN 824 485)

The criteria for the list that this summit relocation applies to are:

The 500-Metre Tops of England and Wales are affectionately known after their hill list compiler; Michael Dewey.  This list mixes metric and imperial height in its criteria to bookend up to the 2000ft height band and takes in all hills in England, Isle of Man and Wales that are 500m and above and below 2000ft (609.6m) in height that have 30m minimum drop. 

Mountain tables by Michael Dewey

Michael Dewey died on the 5th November 2022.  His wife; Gillian wished for this list to be carried on and made provision for it to be co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips.  Michael will always be the compiler and originator, it’s just that he’s now got a co-author to safeguard and carry this list on. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

The name the hill is listed by is Mynydd Trawsnant and it is adjoined to the Drygarn Fawr group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of South Wales, and it is positioned with a minor road to its north-west and the A483 road to its south-east, and has the town of Llanwrtyd towards the east south-east. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map

When the original list of Deweys appeared in the Mountain tables book published by Constable in 1995, this hill was listed with a summit height of 517m, based on the spot height positioned at SN 821 484 that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map.

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales.

LIDAR summit image of Mynydd Trawsnant (SN 824 485)

The details ascertained from LIDAR for the new and old summit position are given below, but as the upper section of this hill is forested the accuracy of LIDAR modelling may be compromised.  However, the pre-forestry levelled height on the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps substantiates the new LIDAR position. 

 

New summit:  516.559m at SN 82452 48564 

Old summit:  516.489m at SN 82162 48430 

 

The above detail compared to the summit position previously given comes within the parameters of the Summit Relocations used within this page heading, these parameters are: 

The term Summit Relocations applies to when the high point is positioned in a different field, to a different feature such as a conifer plantation, within a different map contour, a different point where a number of potential summit positions are within close proximity, when natural ground or the natural and intact summit is confirmed compared to a higher point such as a raised field boundary or covered reservoir that is considered a relatively recent man-made construct, or a relocation of approximately 100 metres or more in distance from either the position of a map spot height or from where the summit of the hill was previously thought to exist. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Therefore, the summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 516.6m and this is positioned at SN 82452 48564.  This position is not given a spot height on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map, but is close to where the 517m spot height appears on the contemporary 1:50,000 Landranger map and is approximately 320 metres north-eastward from where the previously listed summit is positioned. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Drygarn Fawr 

Name:  Mynydd Trawsnant 

OS 1:50,000 map:  147

OS 1:25,000:  187 

Summit Height:  516.6m (LIDAR)

Summit Grid Reference (New Position):  SN 82452 48564 (LIDAR)  

Bwlch Height:  378.3m (LIDAR)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 82781 50423 (LIDAR)

Drop:  138.3m (LIDAR)

 

Myrddyn Phillips (August 2023)

 

 

 

 

 

  

Saturday, 19 August 2023

Mapping Mountains – Summit Relocations – 500m Twmpau and Welsh Highlands – Uchafion Cymru

 

Mynydd Trawsnant (SN 824 485) 

There has been a Summit Relocation to a hill that is listed in the 500m Twmpau and the Welsh Highlands – Uchafion Cymru, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Aled Williams. 

LIDAR image of Mynydd Trawsnant (SN 824 485)

The criteria for the two listings that this summit relocation applies to are:

500m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 500m and below 600m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub category entitled the 500m Sub-Twmpau consisting of all Welsh hills at or above 500m and below 600m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  With the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and is published on Mapping Mountains in Google Doc format.

The 500m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

Welsh Highlands – Uchafion Cymru – Welsh hills at or above 500m in height with 15m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Welsh Highland Subs, the criteria for which is all Welsh hills at or above 500m in height with 10m or more and below 15m of drop.  This list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams with the Introduction to the list published on Mapping Mountains in November 2015 and the latest update relating to the list published on Mapping Mountains in January 2023.

Welsh Highlands - Uchafion Cymru by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams

The name the hill is listed by is Mynydd Trawsnant and it is adjoined to the Drygarn Fawr group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with a minor road to its north-west and the A483 road to its south-east, and has the town of Llanwrtyd towards the east south-east. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

When the original list of Welsh 500m P15s that later became known as the Welsh Highlands – Uchafion Cymru was first compiled, this hill was listed with an estimated c 139m of drop based on the 517m summit spot height that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map and which is positioned at SN 82136 48415, and an estimated c 378m bwlch height. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger map

The details for this hill were re-evaluated when the Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website and which was entitled the Interactive Coverage Map became available online.  This mapping had many spot heights not on other publicly available maps and for this hill it had a 378m bwlch spot height and therefore its drop was amended to 139m. 

LIDAR summit image of Mynydd Trawsnant (SN 824 485)

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

The details ascertained from LIDAR for the new and old summit position are given below, but as the upper section of this hill is forested the accuracy of LIDAR modelling may be compromised.  However, the pre-forestry levelled height on the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps substantiates the new LIDAR position. 

 

New summit:  516.559m at SN 82452 48564 

Old summit:  516.489m at SN 82162 48430 

 

The above detail compared to the summit position previously given comes within the parameters of the Summit Relocations used within this page heading, these parameters are: 

The term Summit Relocations applies to when the high point is positioned in a different field, to a different feature such as a conifer plantation, within a different map contour, a different point where a number of potential summit positions are within close proximity, when natural ground or the natural and intact summit is confirmed compared to a higher point such as a raised field boundary or covered reservoir that is considered a relatively recent man-made construct, or a relocation of approximately 100 metres or more in distance from either the position of a map spot height or from where the summit of the hill was previously thought to exist. 

Therefore, the summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 516.6m and this is positioned at SN 82452 48564.  This position is not given a spot height on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map, but is close to where the 517m spot height appears on the contemporary 1:50,000 Landranger map and is approximately 320 metres north-eastward from where the previously listed summit is positioned.

 

ills of Wales, and are reproduced below@

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Drygarn Fawr

Name:  Mynydd Trawsnant

OS 1:50,000 map:  147

Summit Height:  516.6m (LIDAR)

Summit Grid Reference (new position):  SN 82452 48564 (LIDAR)  

Bwlch Height:  378.3m (LIDAR)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 82781 50423 (LIDAR)

Drop:  138.3m (LIDAR)

 

Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (August 2023)