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Thursday, 14 September 2023

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Gwaun Ceste


10.08.23  Little Hill (SO 171 537, only bwlch surveyed) and Gwaun Ceste (SO 158 555) 

Gwaun Ceste (SO 158 555)

Over recent years LIDAR has resulted in many hill reclassifications, it is not overstating to say that the use of LIDAR has revolutionised hill classification.  It is also responsible for many summit relocations, and today it was a potential summit relocation that I wanted to investigate with the aid of the Trimble GeoXH 6000 in hand.

The hill in question is Gwaun Ceste, which I had visited on two previous occasions, the last of which was in July 2015.  I had then taken data from the high point beside the triangulation pillar, which consists of a patch of grass encircling the trig beside a morass of moorland, mainly consisting of heather.  It was this position that was then recognised as the high point of the hill.  However, LIDAR gives another position 0.26m higher than the data set produced by the Trimble.  This new position is approximately 180 metres to the south-east of the trig pillar, and it consists of heather. 

LIDAR summit image of Gwaun Ceste (SO 158 555)

Over recent weeks the weather had been inclement with some beautiful blue skied days interspersed amongst many wet ones; today the forecast gave for dry conditions with warm sunshine.  It was the ideal day to head up to Gwaun Ceste and take a series of data sets from these two positions.

I considered a circular walk, similar to the one I had done with Nicola Morris in 2015 when we also visited the two Pedwar hills that are named Little Hill.  However, my priority was the surveys of Gwaun Ceste and therefore I started my walk from the top of the minor road that heads from the small community of Glasgwm toward Llanfair Llythynwg (Gladestry) in the east.

After arriving and parking my car I took a series of photographs of a number of sheep, many lazing on and beside the minor road, a large tree cast shade at this time of the morning and they were happily shielded from the brightness and warmth of the sun. 

Lazy morning for the sheep

The approach to Gwaun Ceste from this direction is similar to many hills in Radnorshire as a good track gave access avoiding the moorland surrounds.  This headed around the western shoulder of the lower of the two Little Hill hills.  These tracks are a godsend as many similar heighted hills comprise moorland with rough grass but mainly heather predominating and the tracks give relatively easy access to the higher ground. 

The track heading toward Gwaun Ceste

My first task was to re-survey the bwlch of the lower Little Hill, my planned route passed over it and according to LIDAR my previous Trimble survey was approximately 30 metres from its critical point.  As I approached the bwlch the southern flank of Gwaun Ceste rose above, it looked picturesque at this time of day with blue sky above, direct sunlight on it and a foreground of purpled heather. 

LIDAR image of Little Hill (SO 171 537)

Using the Trimble as a hand-held GPS it was easy to zero in on the grid co-ordinates that LIDAR give for this bwlch.  Once at the critical point I positioned the Trimble atop my rucksack; took the measurement offset between its internal antenna and the ground at its base and once the 0.1m accuracy level was attained I set it to gather data. 

Gathering data at the bwlch of Little Hill

This was a stunningly beautiful place to be at this time of the morning.  No one else was about and with the tranquil warmth generated from the sun and just the hint of a breeze it certainly felt good to be out.  Once allotted data were gathered and stored I closed the equipment down, took a few photos, packed it away and started on the main uphill section of the day. 

The Trimble set-up position at the bwlch of Little Hill

Ahead were two main options, a steep green path that Nic and I had taken on my last visit and a track heading north-westward gaining height as it did so.  I decided on the former, with the latter hopefully found for my descent.  The continued ascent proved steep, but as ever with one or two stops to regain breath height was soon gained. 

Looking back on the bwlch area of Little Hill

The green path merged on to a track which near the LIDAR high point of the hill headed away toward the east.  It was at this point that I headed over the moor on to a series of sheep paths, the going hereabouts was never difficult and with the aid of the Trimble used as a directional device the LIDAR high point was soon reached.  This is positioned in a morass of heather, to the north-east the trig stared back at me, over such a distance it was almost impossible to judge purely by eye which point was higher. 

Gathering data at the LIDAR summit of Gawun Ceste with the trig pillar summit in the background 

I wanted to take two data sets from this position, and do likewise with the high point beside the trig pillar.  Each in relation to the other would then give a good indication of true height and importantly true summit position.  With each survey taking around ten minutes to set up and gather data, it meant I would be on the summit area for about 40 – 50 minutes.  I’ve experienced such time restraints due to surveying many times before, and these are now the norm when I go hill walking. 

The Trimble set-up position at the LIDAR summit of Gwaun Ceste

As the LIDAR summit position comprises heather I wanted to take the survey measurement down to the base of peat, on the second survey I positioned the Trimble on what looked to be the high point of this ground and found that it comprised a root ball of a clump of heather, and wondered if LIDAR had modelled this instead of the adjacent peat at its base.  The Trimble result compared to LIDAR position and height will answer this question.

Once the two data sets were gathered at the LIDAR summit I headed over to the trig pillar.  Once there I looked back on where I had just been, and again from here it was hard to judge what position was higher.  Thankfully the high point beside the trig pillar consisted of one or two slight bumps on an otherwise small area of grass and earth.  Again I took two data sets, each about a metre apart. 

Gathering data at the trig pillar summit of Gwaun Ceste with the LIDAR summit in the background

During data collection I looked at my map and followed my downward route on it toward where a footpath was indicated.  This was at a fold in the map, which wasn’t ideal.  As I hadn’t taken this route before I did not want to end up on a track losing height and ending up in the valley below.  I therefore decided to keep high on my descent and use any sheep track I could find.  In hindsight I would not recommend this. 

The Trimble set-up position at the summit of Gwaun Ceste

As data were collected beside the trig pillar I happily stood in the heather below the equipment so as not to disturb satellite reception, and scribbled all necessary information in my survey log book which will be documented at a later stage and put in the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet hosted on my Mapping Mountains site.  In the distance the peaks of Bannau Brycheiniog stood out, their blue tinged profiles easily recognisable, to my north-east the higher hills of Fforest Glud again stood out whilst to my south the bulk of the Black Mountains were a wedge of land.  Away to my west and north-west there were many hills, some I could name, but many others I could not.  I felt privileged to be out in such a place.

As the last of the individual allotted data were gathered and stored I approached the equipment and closed it down.  It was now time to head down and hopefully find a good path, this proved relatively easy to begin with as I decided to use what initially proved a good sheep path, unfortunately this all too soon petered out and my continued progress soon turned in to a slow bracken bash with some growing as high as my chest.

I found an occasional sheep path to continue on, but these soon bisected and again petered out, much of the going was pathless, some relatively easy over low moor, whilst some quite horrendous and especially with the strengthening heat which started to sap my energy levels.

I eventually emerged looking out over the connecting bwlch to Little Hill which I had surveyed earlier in the morning.  As I lost height I spotted two walkers making their way up the track I should have been on, I headed in their direction and once on the track sat to recover my breath. 

Looking across to Little Hill (SO 171 537)

From here the going down proved slow, my energy levels had plummeted which is a concern I’ve lived with for two years or more, however experience has told me to take my time and continue very slowly and this is what I did.

I was in no rush and sat and rested on another couple of occasions, the last listening to summer sounds of distant bleating sheep, the near buzzing of flies and the gentle wisp of breeze as it cascaded over the land.  Above was blue sky with dappled white and light grey of the occasional cloud, with the foreground dominated by a many hued green with the lower moor soon giving way to the customary dappled and patch-worked fields. 

Looking across at the other Little Hill (SO 142 537)

Back at the car I chatted to a couple who were resting having reached the top of the road, they were on a two day cycle ride with heavy panniers on their bikes.  Soon after they waved and headed down the road I heard the sound of a vehicle coming down the opposing track to the south. 

Aaron Brookshaw - the local Gamekeeper

The vehicle was driven by the gamekeeper to these moors, Aaron Brookshaw, after I introduced myself and explained my interest in hill names; we spoke for 10 – 15 minutes.  These unplanned encounters with people who work the land that our hills are situated on are always worthwhile.  They can give a wealth of locally known information, from feature names to the names of hills and it was no different with Aaron.  After he left, I changed and headed to Llanidloes to visit Eryl and Rita, before continuing to Newtown to watch Oppenheimer in the Regent Cinema, in all it proved an excellent way to spend the day. 

 

Survey Result:

 

Little Hill                                   

Summit Height:  469.2m (converted to OSGM15, from previous Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey)

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 17175 53749 (from previous Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey) (summit relocation)

Bwlch Height:  422.7m (converted to OSGM15)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SO 16357 54404

Drop:  46.5m

Dominance:  9.91%

 

 

Gwaun Ceste                             

Summit Height:  542.1m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 15821 55547 (Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Bwlch Height:  376.9m (LIDAR)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SO 16953 58220 (LIDAR)

Drop:  165.2m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR bwlch)

Dominance:  30.47% (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR bwlch)

 

 

For further details please consult the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet 

Sunday, 20 August 2023

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Drygarn Fawr


01.07.23  Pt. 506.0m (SN 817 554) 

Pt. 506.0m (SN 817 554)

Back to the forested hills above the Tywi valley today, and with only six hills remaining to complete the Welsh Highlands list and with the encouragement from Aled the plan was to knock another one off the ever decreasing total.  This hill was my main objective of the day and is listed as Esgair Gerwyn (SN 788 586), however as a higher prominence hill which is classified as a Dewey is positioned conveniently across the valley and on the way to Esgair Gerwyn, it seemed wise to visit the Dewey first and make more of the day by doing so.

We were parked at the start of the forest track leading toward the summit by 8.50am.  Stepping out of the car was a shock as a chilled breeze blew with flecks of wind-blown drizzle adding merriment to the scene; therefore I put my lightweight fleece on and was glad for its extra warmth. 

Heading up the forest track

The gate at the start of the forest track was locked, which wasn’t a surprise.  Soon on the other side we made good progress up the track as drizzled showers pushed inland toward us.  Looking toward the bleak grey skies to the west the cloud was just above the hills, and one of these was Esgair Gerwyn.  In time the cloud base would rise and patches of direct sunlight would appear, adding flashes of intensified colour to the scene.  This was highlighted by the deepening grey sky, which always intensifies colour when direct sunlight is at play. 

Flashes of sunlight between the showers

As height was gained we passed a section of felled forest, with machinery beside the track, with cut and stacked logs neatly arranged for pick-up.  A short distance beyond and Aled called back that the summit area was free of trees, which was an unexpected bonus. 

One of the hazards of visiting forested tops

Prior to tree felling this section of the hill had two fire breaks leading up toward the summit.  The second of which took you very close to the high point.  This is what I found on my only previous visit in June 2003.  These fire breaks were still evident on the ground, the first adjacent to the still standing mature trees and the second further in to the felled section.  It was this second fire break that would lead us toward the summit. 

A pleasant surprise when the summit area came in to view and it was free of trees

Considering the whole summit area of this hill had recently been felled the going underfoot was relatively easy as we left the confines of the track and headed toward the high point, Aled had recently analysed this hill with new Welsh LIDAR, and using the Trimble GeoXH 6000 as a hand-held device soon took us to the LIDAR high point. 

Heading up the fire break

The felled section gave a number of advantages; easier access to the high point, a summit that could now be Trimbled and the prospect of a view, the latter was only partial as more mature conifers were in front of us. 

Gathering data at the summit of Pt. 506.0m (SN 817 554)

By now the intermittent drizzled showers were massing to wind-blown rain which swept across the summit as the Trimble beeped away collecting its individual datum points.  Once allotted data were gathered and stored I closed the equipment down, wiped the screen to dry it off and down we went back on the easier ground of the fire break to the forest track.  It was here that Aled set off farther in to the forest to visit a sub hill positioned at SN 825 540, whilst I headed down our inward route enjoying the freshness of drizzle and the view farther west, which was now slate grey with more rain massing. 

Aled heading off toward the Welsh Highland Sub which is in the background on the left

Once back at the car I quickly sorted my gear out before sitting in the driver’s seat with a bite to eat, water and a good book.  About an hour after I had arrived, Aled appeared with stories of conifer bashing to get to the trig pillar at the summit of the sub hill.  I was glad that the subs had not yet entailed a compulsive bagging mentality in me! 

 

Survey Result:

 

Pt. 506.0m                                

Summit Height:  506.0m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 81733 55429 (Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Bwlch Height:  462.7m (LIDAR)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 81897 54586 (LIDAR)

Drop:  43.3m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR bwlch)

Dominance:  8.56% (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR bwlch)

 

 

For further details please consult the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet

 

 

  

Sunday, 11 June 2023

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Drygarn Fawr


29.04.23  Esgair Cloddiad (SN 824 573) and Gnol Ddu (SN 823 599) 

Gnol Ddu (SN 823 599)

My only prior visit to Esgair Cloddiad was in June 2003 and I was fortunate to find the section enclosing its summit trig pillar felled of trees, and although the forest track leading close to the trig pillar was gauged and rutted with muddied vehicle tracks, it was only a short stumble across felled forestry to the summit.  The view was extensive and took in the large beehive cairn atop Drygarn Fawr.  The hill has been re-planted and during today’s walk the resulting conifer infestation coursed its usual mayhem.

Esgair Cloddiad and Gnol Ddu are positioned in the Tywi Forest, and it was a part of this forested area that Aled and I investigated three weeks ago.  Today we were back visiting two 500m tops, the further northward of which appears in our Welsh Highlands – Uchafion Cymru and the Y Pellennig – The Remotest Hills of Wales lists.  The forecast gave heavy localised showers breaking out in the afternoon onward and therefore I met Aled relatively early at 7.30am in Caersŵs.

I then drove onward toward Beulah and Abergwesyn and the narrow road leading above the Irfon toward our hills.  The later part of the journey was particularly beautiful with low morning sun casting beautiful colour upon the land.

We parked at the start of a forest track, which on my previous visit I drove a short distance up before parking at a prominent and wide corner.  Today the swing gate across the track was locked. 

On my last visit the swing gate was open and I drove a short distance up this forest track

Aled had come prepared with details of a route to the summit of our first hill of the day; Esgair Cloddiad, used by Mark Trengove in the past.  This we followed to the best of our capabilities, although we did overshoot the green forest ride leaving the main forest track which after retracing our steps, gave access up the south-west flank of the hill.  Toward the top of the ride a narrow path of sorts veered right in to the trees.  This we followed as it became narrower.  We were soon conifer bashing.  Eventually we emerged in a clearing which had a fence forlornly marching across it.  Beyond the fence were mature trees and to our left newly felled forestry.  As we ascended the initial ride we heard the sound of forest workers and therefore seeing their machines off in the distance was not a surprise.  As I waited beside the fence Aled headed to the felled section and scouted an onward route to our second hill of the day; Gnol Ddu.  After re-joining me he reported that there was a track which would connect with the main forest track which we wanted to get back on to for the continuation of our walk.  All we had to now do was find the summit of Esgair Cloddiad before heading back to this clearing for our onward route. 

Before the tree bashing began

To find the summit trig pillar, Aled used the Trimble as a hand-held GPS and followed the grid co-ordinates on its screen as we slowly stumbled our way through the conifers toward the summit via a peaty channel and an awful lot of conifer branches.  Forested hills are not my favourite, but they can on occasion give adventure, today the weather conditions were progressively warming up and I was already knackered by the time Aled found the two summit rocks and trig pillar. 

The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Esgair Cloddiad

Aled beside the trig pillar atop Esgair Cloddiad

We gathered data from the highest rock before taking the customary summit photographs beside the trig pillar.  We then bashed our way out of the conifers back to the clearing and on to the felled section of forestry, where a muddied track led us toward the forest track which in time led toward the second hill of the day.  It felt good to be out of the conifers and on a forest track again.  The track wound its way ever northward loosing height as it did so before reaching a track junction that would give an alternative route down instead of retracing our steps. 

The muddied track leading through the felled section

Heading toward the main forest track

At the junction we veered right and followed the track as it would its way through the forest, gaining height. By now the early morning blue skies had been replaced with deep grey threatening cloud.  Initially this was more evident to our east, but in time the threatening cloud increased and appeared closer to where we now were.  However, the sun still shone and the conditions progressively got warmer over the next hour or so.

We stopped beside a sheep pen and sat on a pallet for a rest and nourishment before heading farther northward.  Eventually the forest track skirted the eastern flank of Gnol Ddu before veering westward, this corner signalled our farthest part of the forest track and also our inward route up to the high point of Gnol Ddu. 

Having just left the forest track this is the initial route up Gnol Ddu

Thankfully the broad summit ridge of this hill is clear of conifers and also delightfully lined with an avenue of stunted Scots Pine, which today stood out in their greenery against the backdrop of sunlit grey sky.  The route to the high point was over bleached moor grass and I slowly followed Aled with the Trimble guiding him in to the trees on our left to the high point of the hill. 

Aled at the summit of Gnol Ddu

We stayed on top for a few minutes and marvelled at the Scots Pine which added variety to the regimented conifer plantation.  The colour stood out with the whitened moor grass and succulent Scots Pine cast against a deepening grey sky, and all highlighted by warming sunlight. 

The beautiful avenue of Scots Pine

A welcome sight

We now reversed our inward route, pausing at the sheep pen for another sit down and more nourishment.  I was not looking forward to retracing our inward route as by now any uphill was proving wearisome and therefore once we left our rest spot, Aled went ahead while I headed down at the track junction on the alternative descent route.  This gave views further westward with the foreground now open and free of conifers, although more forestry loomed in the distance.  By the time the track merged on to tarmac Aled was waiting for me with the car. 

 

Survey Result:

 

Esgair Cloddiad

Summit Height:  532.3m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 82471 57371 (Trimble GeoXH 6000)

Bwlch Height:  500.8m (LIDAR)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 82237 58334 (LIDAR)

Drop:  31.5m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR bwlch)

Dominance:  5.91% (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR bwlch)

 

 

Gnol Ddu

Summit Height:  529.9m (LIDAR)

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 82386 59935 (LIDAR)

Bwlch Height:  512.6m (LIDAR)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 82420 60272 (LIDAR)

Drop:  17.2m (LIDAR)

Dominance:  3.25% (LIDAR)

 

 

For further details please consult the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet

 

 

 

  

Tuesday, 28 March 2023

New Welsh LIDAR - Twmpau, Simms and Dodds

 

New Welsh LIDAR – Twmpau, Simms and Dodds 

The release of new Welsh LIDAR has generated a number of status changes, including the following hills in the listing of Twmpau: 

 

500m Twmpau

Group

Name

Summit (m)

Summit GR

Bwlch (m)

Bwlch GR

Drop (m)

Change

Moelwyn Mawr

Pt. 511.7m

511.7

SH 69325 48552

491.7

SH 69253 48542

20.0

Sub-Twmpau addition

 Y Llethr

Pt.551.8m

551.8

SH 66588 32216

531.65

SH 66333 32260

20.1

Sub-Twmpau addition


700m Twmpau

Group

Name

Summit (m)

Summit GR

Bwlch (m)

Bwlch GR

Drop (m)

Change

Arenig Fawr

Pt. 714.3m

714.3

SH 82741 35938

693.6

SH 82725 36128

20.7

Sub-Twmpau addition



The release of these new data has also generated a number of proposed status changes in the listings of the Simms and Dodds, including the following hills:


Simms

Group

Name

Summit (m)

Summit GR

Bwlch (m)

Bwlch GR

Drop (m)

Change

Yr Wyddfa

 Y Lliwedd

893.2

SH 62402 53249

872.9

SH 62297 53267

20.3

Subsimm addition

Yr Wyddfa

Lliwedd Bach

819.0

SH 62750 53229

798.5

SH 62695 53204

20.5

Subsimm addition

Arenig Fawr

Pt. 714.3m

714.3

SH 82741 35938

693.6

SH 82725 36128

20.7

Subsimm addition

 

Dodds

Group

Name

Summit (m)

Summit GR

Bwlch (m)

Bwlch GR

Drop (m)

Change

Moelwyn Mawr

Craig Stwlan

568.7

SH 66736 44654

548.65

SH 66695 44714

20.0

Subdodd addition

Moelwyn Mawr

Pt. 511.7m

511.7

SH 69325 48552

491.7

SH 69253 48542

20.0

Subdodd addition

Arenig Fach

Y Ro Lwyd

534.3

SH 76110 50527

513.6

SH 76066 50598

20.7

Subdodd addition

Y Llethr

Garn Fach

559.8

SH 69782 22770

537.95

SH 69894 22881

21.8

Subdodd addition

 Y Llethr

Pt.551.8m

551.8

SH 66588 32216

531.65

SH 66333 32260

20.1

Subdodd addition


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (March 2023)