Showing posts with label Graham Jackson. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Graham Jackson. Show all posts

Wednesday, 11 November 2015

ARD film available on-line


Toward the end of July of this year G&J Surveys joined members of The Munro Society in Scotland to film scenes with a German production company named ARD (full name:  Arbeitsgemeinschaft der öffentlich-rechtlichen Rundfunkanstalten der Bundesrepublik Deutschland).  ARD wanted to film scenes relating to Munros which would form part of a programme on Scotland which is due to be broadcast this month (November). 

This film is now available on-line and our part in it takes up approximately 3 mins 30 secs.  The link to the film appears below with the sequence relating to the Munros being from 5 min 10 sec – 8 min 42 sec.  The link relating to the blog post detailing the day’s filming also appears below.




Sunday, 8 November 2015

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Fforest Glud


09.10.15  Colfa Hill (SO 194 553)  

Colfa Hill (SO 194 553)

Colfa Hill is positioned in the heart of Radnorshire where hills stand gentle and their heathered summits are eased with a number of vehicle tracks that pass between valleys and head toward their heights.  Today we wanted to visit Colfa Hill which had been on our radar for a couple of years.  The hill is listed as having 146m of drop in the Marilyns list and c 147m in the 500m Twmpau list, this drop figure is close to the 150m required for Marilyn status, and with a map summit height of 532m and with the area of the bwlch having a 388m spot height on it that is not centralised, there was an outside chance that the hill has more prominence than currently listed.

We parked, having been given permission to do so, at the end of the narrow road that passes to the north and then east of Llyn Heilyn which is to the west of Llanfihangel Nant Melan.  It was good to be out with John and Graham again and we soon had our boots on and walking up the track and across fields following rights of way on old greened vehicle tracks.

John with level in hand on the way to Colva Hill

The weather was set fine for the day with blue sky and warmth for early October.  Cresting a small intervening pastoral ridge we continued down to cross the Gilwern Brook and then headed up the other side toward the expanse of this hill’s bwlch.

Heading toward the bwlch which is on the left of photo with trees close to it

Graham nearing the bwlch

The spot height on this bwlch appears at its eastern fringes, we started assessing this area from its west and spent quite some time laying out rows of flags slowly working our way east, with measurements taken to each five flagged row and noted.  As we progressed the land that looked as if it was rising toward our hill was in fact continuing to go downhill. 

With each reading taken by John with the level to the staff that Graham was positioning beside each flag, the area of the bwlch was mapped out and its hill to hill and valley to valley traverse slowly gave up its secrets.  I noted each height reading and after about 90 minutes we had pinpointed where the critical bwlch was positioned, this was in a boggy runnel on the eastern side of the area of the bwlch and proved to be approximately five metres away from where the 388m spot height appears on the ground.

John operating the level

Graham with the staff

As John and Graham assembled the Lerica GS15 for its hours’ worth of data collection I took a few photos with the heightened autumnal colour accentuated by the low afternoon sun.  As the GS15 gathered its allotted data we watched a farmer drive sheep down the opposite hillside, half an hour later he drove toward us and I sauntered over for a chat; Ray Rogers proved very friendly and gave out smiles in his thick Radnorshire accent, we talked about the hills, their names and his sheep.  A few minutes later and John and Graham came over and we all nattered away for ten minutes or so.

The Leica GS15 gathering data at the critical bwlch of Colfa Hill

Graham and John with Ray Rogers

Graham and John beside the Leica GS15 at the bwlch of Colfa Hill

After one hour of data were collected I positioned the Trimble on top of the GS15’s antenna and we gathered a further five minutes of data, having taken a 1.086m measurement offset between its internal antenna and the ground.  Once all the equipment was packed away we headed up the hill.

Gathering data with the Trimble at the critical bwlch of Colfa Hill

Following one of the many green vehicle tracks that criss-cross these hills, we gained height and swung left (north) as we gained the south-west ridge of Colfa Hill, this track led around Cwm Griffin and soon we were beside the trig pillar at the summit.

John approaching the summit of Colfa Hill

This summit had already been surveyed with an Abney level and the high point found to be approximately seven metres north of the trig pillar.  As the afternoon sun sank ever deeper and a cooling chill enveloped the land we took a series of measurements with level and staff and found that the Abney measurement was spot on.  Soon afterward the Leica GS15 was set up and gathering its data.

Surveying for summit position on Colfa Hill

Graham and John beside the Leica GS15 at the summit of Colfa Hill

Once an hour of data were collected the Trimble GeoXH 6000 was set up on its draughts board and sat on top of the tripod that had previously supported the Leica equipment and gathered its five minutes of data.

The Trimble gathering data at the summit of Colfa Hill

The Leica and Trimble set-up position at the summit of Colfa Hill in relation to where the trig pillar is positioned

All that remained was to pack everything away and retrace our steps down the hill.  Passing over the bwlch we could see Ray and his son beside a large sheep pen, we stopped and chatted, they were just about to separate their sheep from any lingering souls who had joined from neighbouring herds and treat them against scab.

Heading down from the hill

As the sun sank behind a hill ridge to our west the last half hour back to the awaiting car proved a slightly chilly affair with autumnal clear skies heralding the onset of another cold winter.   


Survey Result:


Colfa Hill

Summit Height:  532.2m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)  

532.2m (converted to OSGM15, Leica GS15)

Summit Grid Reference:  SO 19449 55397

Bwlch Height:  387.8m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)  

387.7m (converted to OSGM15, Leica GS15)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SO 17968 55359

Drop:  144.4m (Trimble GeoXH 6000)  144.6m (Leica GS15) (Submarilyn 

status confirmed)

Dominance:  27.16% (Leica GS15)






For further details please consult the Trimble survey spreadsheet click {here}


Saturday, 7 November 2015

Dull Men of Great Britain – Book Launch


Introduction:

On the 1st October 2015 the Dull Men of Great Britain was published by Ebury Press, this book celebrates the ordinary and routine things that everyday folk do.  It details a diverse collection of men and their mundane and unglamorous activities.  Although proclaiming dullness from every page the book is also an extraordinary insight into the force behind the collector and unusual activity that drives many a person’s life. 

The author of the book and Assistant Vice President of the Dull Man’s Club is Leland Carlson.  With the book being grabbed off the proverbial book shelve by every aspirant Dull Man in Britain, Leland organised its launch at Stanfords in London on Wednesday 4th November where a gathering of the people detailed in the book was to take place.  Three of these people are part of a Mountain Measuring team named G&J Surveys, and two of us planned on attending the book launch at Stanfords.


London:

Capital of our land and one of the most extraordinary cities in the world, London cannot be described as being Dull, but when one scratches below its exciting surface mundane things can be found in all their everyday glory. 

With the book launch scheduled for 6.30pm – 8.00pm at Stanfords and an after launch party organised at Villandry, an upscale Edwardian dining establishment situated in Waterloo Place, I considered my day in this cultural city.  Should I scratch below its surface and spend my day investigating its everyday occurrence’s and immerse myself in its underbelly of routine, or should I attempt to be exciting and immerse myself in its culture and history, I’m afraid my status of being a Dull Man lapsed for six hours as I opted for the latter.

I cannot bring anything new to say about London as it has no doubt been said a thousand times before, but I can briefly describe my cultural and historical trip around its wide and boisterous streets.

With six hours to immerse myself in this city’s heritage before an evening train back to the dimmed lights of Worcester I planned on visiting three culturally magnificent places and take a walking tour between each, soaking in the splendour of London’s streets.

My entrance and exit point was Paddington and a tube on the Bakerloo Line took me conveniently to Piccadilly which is only four minutes’ walk from the eloquent dining at the Villandry, I visited its lower floor to acquaint myself with its surrounds and the way back to the tube for later in the evening.

The Villandry, a splendid upscale Edwardian restaurant and the setting for our after launch party

My next port of call was the National Gallery which is a magnificent art museum founded in 1824 and is positioned looking out over the expanse of Trafalgar Square.  As I wandered haphazardly around the 2,300 paintings housed in the gallery I wondered if focus was required, as I only had six hours before my Dull persona had to be routinely ignited and these hours of lax cultural excitement should be savoured and made the most of.  As one glaringly powerful painting merged into the next I decided to concentrate on two High Renaissance iconic figures; Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo.  The former’s exquisite use of shadowed intimacy is impressive whilst the latter’s unfinished work left me wondering what all the fuss was about.

Having partly cultured myself out on the bombardment of colour and opulence in the National Gallery I wandered around the corner and visited the National Portrait Gallery.  This was the first portrait gallery in the world when opened in 1856 and houses a variety of portraits of historically important and famous British people, no Dullness here then.

I found that haphazardness worked well in the National Portrait Gallery as its confines are on a smaller scale than those of the National Gallery, and I wandered happily around enjoying one stunning portrait after another.  One stood out above all others but I’m afraid I did not note the artist / photographers name or that of their subject, my lack of need to note such detail was a sign that my Dull persona was struggling to the fore as only four hours remained until the book launch appointment at Stanfords.

One of the perquisites of being Dull is routine, and my routine dictates that when visiting places I need to know where each is positioned and the approximate time between them so I can allow sufficient time to then investigate, and as I left the National Portrait Gallery I walked toward Long Acre Street to stare longingly at the shop that is Stanfords.  This is one of my favourite shops in the whole world and I make an effort to visit each time I am in London, to stare at its inner marvels is a joy to succumb to.

Stanfords is a must visit for travel and map enthusiasts

However, Stanfords was just a tease for now, as I continued walking down the length of Long Acre Street and turned left onto Drury Lane and then continued on Museum Street toward the British Museum.  The British Museum houses a collection dedicated to human history, art and culture and when founded in 1753 it was the first national public museum in the world.  With limited time I definitely needed to focus on what to see and the museum’s ‘Don’t Miss’ tour around 12 of its highlights was the ideal way to explore this magnificent museum.

Great Court at the British Museum

I was transported back in time to the Lewis Chessmen, metalwork from Iran, The Royal Game of Ur, the beautifully detailed and almost translucent Portland Vase, Samurai armour from Japan, Ceramic tomb figures from the Tang dynasty, an Ivory pendant mask from Africa, an Easter Island statue, the seminal Rosetta Stone, the beautifully carved Assyrian Lion Hunt and the controversial Parthenon sculptures.  The only one of the twelve I did not see was the Horse from the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos as the room that housed this antiquity was closed.  As I had visited the sight of this Ancient Wonder of the World it was a disappointment not to see one of its artefacts.


Part of the Assyrian Lion Hunt frieze


The Portland Vase

Another segment from the Assyrian Lion Hunt frieze

My Dull persona was now revved up and ready to ignite as not seeing this horse I reminisced on my visit to the site of the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos which is in modern day Bodrum, Turkey, this was the fifth site out of the seven that constitute the wonders of the ancient world that I had visited, nothing like a good bit of Dull collectors instinct to kick in mid-afternoon in the British Museum.

By now I was well and truly all cultured out and needed to be brought down to earth as this display of cultural overload needed to end before Dullness could manifest itself, and the gentle surrounds of Covent Garden was an ideal balance between culture and Dullness and one that led neatly to the front door of Stanfords.


The Book Launch:

Stanfords was established in 1853 and its present store first opened its doors in January 1901, it is the leading specialist retailer of maps and travel books in the country, and I love it.  As I wandered around its many shelves of maps and books and more maps and more books I eventually ventured down to its basement level where the book launch was just about to gear itself into start mode.  Wine was being poured, name tags were allotted, THE BOOK was on display and Leland’s casual and appealing voice was gently resounding around the room.

Leland Carlson - Assistant Vice President of the Dull Men's Club

One by one more Dull Men arrived, there was Nick West the Beer Can Obsessive, Jeremy Burton the Country Counter, Gwyn Headley the Folly Fan and a certain John Barnard the Mountain Measurer.  It was good to see John and I realised that as a combined force of two out of the three Dullest Mountain Measurers in the land we were unequalled in the room as all others were singularly Dull, except for Richard and Dick Fryer the Military Vehicle Restorers whose twosome still could not compete with our threesome.

Gwyn and Yvonne Headley - Folly Fan

Deborah and Nick West - Beer Can Obsessive

John Barnard - Mountain Measurer

As the room filled with guests and German camera crews Leland took to the stage of opening proceedings with a jovial rendition of life as a Dull Man, he touched upon the humorous side of all things Dull and gave a perfectly rounded introductory dialogue to why we were all there and who we all were.

Shortly afterward I had the pleasure to meet Kevin Beresford of the Roundabout Appreciation Society, Tim Barker a collector of Toy Soldiers, Tony Cooke the World War 1 Buff, Patrick Cook the Bakelite Buff and Jude Currie who at the tender age of 13 is the Tax Disc Fanatic, also present was John Potter the Rail Timetable Compiler.  My cultural overload had now been replaced by Dull Men overload.  I also chatted with Dr Coulson from Middlesex University who wrote the Foreward to the Dull Men of Great Britain book, I think our conversation went well but I did not hang around to receive his assessment of my tendency to obsess or my fledgling parody of being Dull.

Kevin Beresford - Roundabout Appreciation Society

Patrick Cook - Bakelite Buff

Jude Currie - Tax Disc Fanatic

As more wine was consumed and the conversation verged on being interesting it was time to head toward the after book launch party which Leland had organised at Villandry, this was no more than fifteen minutes’ walk and was conveniently placed a further four minutes’ walk from Piccadilly tube which was my exit point for Paddington Station.

The Villandry proved a delightful ending point for this part of my Dull journey as the surrounds were pleasant, the company was fulfilling and the food especially scrumptious.  I headed off into the darkened streets of London having paid my thanks to Leland for his invitation to attend and his hospitality on the day.

Wandering to the tube I watched as a myriad of people passed me, all going places and doing things, I struck up conversation with a woman on the tube who was a born and bred Londoner, it was good to put conversation to a face that otherwise would have merged into the many thousand who pass through one’s life without a hello or a goodbye, as she got off at Baker Street we said our goodbye’s and I watched as another person who haphazardly enters one’s life for a fleeting few minutes disappeared into the darkness of obscurity.  My day’s journey ended in Worcester, where it had begun, with a warm embrace and a contented sleep.



Thursday, 1 October 2015

Dull Men of Great Britain


As a title the Dull Men of Great Britain is a novel and somewhat eye catching entrance into a fascinating life of collecting and part obsessing.  This need to collect is something that many hill baggers will relate to, but it is something that can be experienced in different areas of life and can relate to all manner of subject matter.  This collecting instinct is not just a mad obsession to visit yet another P30 or fulfil a goal of visiting every trig; it is something that takes in the minutia of living as it can easily become the mainstay of one’s life.

These collecting obsessions are portrayed in all their glory in a book that is published today; 1st October 2015.  The Author of the book is Leland Carlson, who is the assistant vice president of the Dull Men’s Club.  This role is the club’s highest office and one that I suspect Leland is proud of in a sort of tongue in cheek way, after all a fascination with collecting should be accepted and enjoyed, and occasionally joked about.

Dull Men of Great Britain in all their glory

The Dull Men’s Club was formed by Leland and his friend; Grover Click when they were both living in New York.  The club formed the centre piece of a life away from the bright lights of New York’s glamour and gave them an opportunity to enjoy ordinary and mundane everyday things.  This club gave them a reason to proclaim their Dullness to the world and a voice saying that it was OK to be Dull.

Leland spends his time between the enticing excitement of America and Britain and since the club’s formation he has expanded Dullness to take in many unusual aspects, including a best-selling Calendar, entitled Dull Men of Great Britain.  This title is now being re-used for the book, which some may say is a portrayal in Dullness itself as when something works, why change it?

Leland Carlson - author and assistant vice president of the Dull Men's Club

Whereas the Calendar unsurprisingly concentrates on 12 Dull Men, the book has developed this theme and expanded to take in the esoteric lives of 40 people or teams who glorify their lives in unusual passions.  These passions take in many forms and include people who collect beer cans, milk bottles, golf balls, bricks, lawnmowers, tax discs and traffic cones.  Many of these are not the standard collections of youth when scouring bars for a multitude of different varieties of beer mats seemed a normal pastime, or the standard stamp collections or coin collections merged from one into another.  This is where I plead my guilt as my collection fascination doesn’t start at hill bagging / surveying, it has its origins in my youth when an old coin, or beer mat or a new stamp was a prized commodity.  These collections and the passion of the people in this book are on a different scale to the collections of my youth, these people have a perspective of pleasure seemingly unquenchable by their goal of collecting.

It is not just the avid collector that this book concentrates on; it is also such important organisations as the Apostrophe Protection Society, Park Bench Appreciation Society and the Roundabouts Appreciation Society that form the basis of the book.  The latter Society also has its founding member glorified in all their uninhibited enthusiasm on the front cover of the book taking a photograph of a roundabout.  The book also details the unusual activities that many may find hard to quantify or neatly file under a collector or a society, one of these unusual activities details the esoteric nature of three Mountain Measurers.

These Mountain Measurers appear on page 48 of the book and are named; I won’t name them here in case I course offence or embarrassment, but let’s just say that they know who they are.  They are quoted as saying important things such as ‘it’s much more fun to upgrade a hill to a mountain than the other way round’ and ‘it brings together wonderful things like science and technology, health and fitness – in beautiful settings.’  These quotes are factual, correct and very Dull.

The Mountain Measurers

But we are not the only ones hidden away amongst the great and good of Britain’s Dullest people, there is also the small matter of someone who collects trig pillars, again I won’t name this person, but he knows who he is.  The category of obsessive can be neatly filed under collector, this is something that the Mountain Measurers are proud to have avoided as they each view an unusual activity to be Duller than someone who collects things, especially trig pillars.  Anyway, the trig collector appears on page 78 and is quoted as professing that this activity is a ‘tickable commodity’ and that ‘it’s all good fun’.

The Dull Men of Great Britain is available from all good retail outlets and is priced £8.99.  It is highly recommended and will no doubt form the basis of many a banterous evening over a jar or two.

The Mountain Measurers would like to express their thanks to Leland for enquiring about our unusual and passionate activity, and for his unbridled passion in being a Dull Man.  It’s been great fun Leland, thanks.


A number of news outlets have covered the launch of the Dull Men of Great Britain book:


Daily Mail

Daily Record

The Sun

The Telegraph

The Mirror

Birmingham Mail

The Times

Yorkshire Post

Express

ITV News

Irish Mirror

Grough


Please click on the link below if you would like to purchase a copy.

Tuesday, 29 September 2015

G&J Surveys - British Mountaineering Council - Interview

The British Mountaineering Council (BMC) has published an interview that Graham recently gave about the surveys that G&J Surveys have conducted over recent years.  The original article and a link to it on the BMC website appear below.

Moving mountains: meet the men who are rewriting the tick lists

The group use survey-grade GPS equipment to accurately find the height of mountains

Creag na Caillich was recently dropped from the list of Munro Tops after a small team of independent surveyors proved it to be under 3,000ft high. So who are G & J surveys, and why does their work matter to peak baggers?

If you’re working your way through the Munros, the Corbetts or any of the other seemingly endless mountain tick lists, then you’ll want to keep a close eye on the efforts of G & J Surveys. This small team of three friends - John Barnard, Graham Jackson and Myrddyn Phillips - have dedicated the last few years to exploring the hills with a very particular aim in mind. Using survey-grade GPS equipment, they measure the height of hills with incredible accuracy, often playing havoc with the official checklists as they go. Remember when the Fisherfield Six became the Fisherfield Five? That was G & J surveys. More recently they proved that Creag na Caillich can’t in fact claim Munro Top status. So what motivates these three hill enthusiasts to go around measuring mountains? We caught up with Graham Jackson to find out.
         
Why is it that so many of the mountain heights recorded on Ordnance Survey maps are incorrect?

It isn’t that they aren’t correct; it’s just that there is some uncertainty in the measurement. The OS is charged with mapping the whole country at least once every five years, and that’s a huge task. They do it by flying a plane over the terrain they are mapping and photographing as they go. Then they turn the plane round and retake the images. When they feed two images taken from a different angle into a machine, that gives a 3D picture and from that you can measure height. That technique is accurate to plus or minus three metres, so if you’re a map user then it’s perfectly fit for purpose. It doesn’t matter if a mountain is shown on a map as 3,000ft high or 3,010ft high - you can still get to the top of it.

So why is accuracy suddenly more important?
  
It’s really down to hill lists. The majority of lists have some kind of criteria - so Munros, for example, are all 3,000ft or more. If you have a 915m height on a map then that hill will be classed as a Munro - but it might in fact be 918m or 912m. People with an interest in peak bagging want these lists to be accurate.

I hear you’re a peak bagger yourself - did that help spur your interest in measuring mountains?

Yes, the walking group I’ve been a member of since 1989 has been ticking off Munros since the early 1980s and that definitely got me thinking about it. Sometimes you’ll start to climb a list of hills and you get halfway through when the authors come out with revisions that they’ve taken from the maps. You end up thinking ‘there must be a better way than this’.

How did G & J Surveys get started?

Again, it was through our walking group. When you’re in a pub you start talking about things and inevitably the conversation will arrive at how it’s possible to know the highest point of a hill because they have so many humps and bumps on them. After one of these conversations back in 2006, John [Barnard] went away to research this some more and discovered we could work this out using an Abney level - basically a small spirit level. We got a little more into it and bought a surveyors’ level and staff, and then finally in 2008 John said that we could do with a survey-grade GPS and that’s when it all really got started.

Tell me a bit more about the technology you use to measure mountains - how accurate is it?

We use survey-grade GPS equipment that links into a network of OS base stations. The system is called differential GPS and you can get down to amazing levels of accuracy - literally a couple of centimeters. By the time you get to that point, you’re worrying about where the vegetation stops and the mountain begins. 

What do you count as your most important discoveries?

We reclassified two Munros - both of which unfortunately went down rather than up, so there are now 282 Munros rather than the original 284! The first was Sgurr nan Ceannaichean and the second was a hill called Beinn a’Chlaidheimh in the Fisherfield Forest. That last one meant that the famous Fisherfield Six became the Fisherfield Five.

The hill that made the greatest impact was probably Mynydd Graig Goch in Snowdonia, which had been listed as under 2,000ft and was actually just above - making it a new Welsh ‘mountain’. It was the time of the banking crisis, there was doom and gloom everywhere, and while everything in the world was going down here at least was something that was a bit of quirky good news.

Another significant one was back in 2010, when we discovered that Glyder Fawr was over 1,000m and therefore had to be added to the Welsh 1,000m challenge hill race.

What do peak baggers think of your work - do you get any grumpy compleaters who don’t like the fact that you’ve demoted one of their mountains?

A lot of people are really supportive of what we do - one chap called Alan Dawson has bought his own kit so that he can help out, and some guys in Ireland who we visited recently are starting to measure the hills over there. Others don’t believe that what we’re doing is as accurate as claimed, and of course some people take it badly when a hill that they have climbed is demoted - but that’s why it’s so important for those lists to be accurate, because a lot of people use them.

How ‘official’ is the work that you do?

We have a good working relationship with the Ordnance Survey and the SMC will take any changes we find provided that the OS verifies them. What happens when we measure a hill is that we submit our files to the OS, which processes them using their software and confirms the results for us. 

When you set off to survey a mountain that you think could be a candidate for promotion or demotion, is there a frisson of excitement there?

It is exciting! Both John and I studied chemistry at university and come from a background involving measurement, and having that background you’re always motivated to see if there’s something that can be done better and whether measurements will help. 

How much importance do you place on tick lists yourself?

I’ve done the Munros, the Corbetts and the Grahams, and I think that working your way through a tick list focuses the mind - if you don’t have a focus in view then you don’t tend to do as much. But are hill lists important to enjoying the uplands of Britain? Not really. The things that stick in my mind from being in the hills are individual moments…like walking in the Mamores and seeing a golden eagle gliding right by me, or being in the middle of Rannoch Moor on a remote Graham when a flock of snow buntings flew by. Things like that enrich the experience more than just meeting an objective.

But you’d still consider your efforts to make the lists more accurate important?

Personally, I think that if you’re going to have a list based on any criterion then it should be as accurate as it can be or it’s a pointless exercise. There is a lot of discussion about this sort of thing as well. One of the first hills that John and I first measured was Birks Fell in the Yorkshire Dales and there was so much controversy on forums and on social media about where the summit was. We went up there with a level and staff and found the highest point incredibly easily. Why pontificate about it when you can just go up there and measure it?

What peaks do you have in your sights next?

We usually get together in December and plan for the year ahead. In winter we choose objectives that are nearer and can be completed in a short day, so we might just keep our hand in by nipping into Wales and measuring a hill that’s borderline on the list of HUMPs. Our broader objectives are to finish some of the hills on the Munro/ Corbett and Corbett/ Graham borderlines, working with the SMC. There are some hills in Cumbria we want to do too, such as Illgill Head which is currently listed as 609m but could just make it over 2,000ft. Let’s put it this way - we’re certainly not short of challenges!


Please click {here} to see the original article published on the British Mountaineering Council website