Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales

Pt. 323.6m (SN 987 839) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Pt. 323.6m (SN 987 839)

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales – Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13^th May 2017, and the Introduction to the Mapping Mountains publication of the list appearing on the 1^st January 2022. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Hirddywel group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B2), and it is positioned with the A470 road to its north and minor roads to its west and east, and has the town of Llanidloes towards the west.

The hill appeared in the original 300m height band of Welsh P30 hills published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, under the transposed name of Pen-y-banc, with an accompanying note stating; Name from buildings to the North.

Pen-y-banc

320c

SN988840

136

214

Name from buildings to the North

During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historic documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found.

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, on occasion even when research is conducted an appropriate name for the hill may not be found, and on such occasions the listing protocol is to use the point (Pt. 323.6) notation, and for this hill this is such an example.

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales is Pt. 323.6m, and this is being used as the author has not found an appropriate name for the hill either through historic research and/or local enquiry.                                                                        

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Hirddywel 

Name:  Pt. 323.6m 

Previously Listed Name:  Pen-y-banc 

OS 1:50,000 map:  136

Summit Height:  323.6m (LIDAR)                                                           

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 98748 83949 (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Height:  284.3m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 98638 83494 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  39.3m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (December 2024)

 

 

 

  

Mapping Mountains – Summit Relocations – Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales

Pt. 323.6m (SN 987 839) 

There has been a Summit Relocation to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Pt. 323.6m (SN 987 839)

The criteria for the list that this summit relocation applies to:

Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales – Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13^th May 2017, and the Introduction to the Mapping Mountains publication of the list appearing on the 1^st January 2022. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is being listed by the point (Pt. 323.6m) notation, and it is adjoined to the Hirddywel group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B2), and it is positioned with the A470 road to its north and minor roads to its west and east, and has the town of Llanidloes towards the west.

When the original 300m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was included in the main P30 list with a c 320m summit height, based on non interpolation of its uppermost contour that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Exlorer map.  The summit height was subsequently amended to 323m and its position given as SN 98757 83947 when the Ordnance Survey Vector Map Local hosted on the Geograph website and which was entitled the Interactive Coverage Map became available online. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales.

LIDAR analysis gives the highest ground on this hill as 323.95m positioned at SN 98833 84026.  However, this is a part of a raised field boundary at the edge of a minor road and protocols dictate that as this is deemed a relatively recent man-made construct such ground is discounted from the height of a hill. 

LIDAR summit image of Pt. 323.6m (SN 987 839)

The height produced by LIDAR analysis to the natural summit of this hill is 323.6m positioned at SN 98748 83949, and this position in relation to the raised field boundary comes within the parameters of the Summit Relocations used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Summit Relocations applies when the high point of the hill is found to be positioned; in a different field, to a different feature such as in a conifer plantation,  within a different map contour either on Ordnance Survey maps or interactive mapping, to a different point where a number of potential summit positions are within close proximity, when natural ground or the natural and intact summit of a hill is confirmed compared to a higher point such as a raised field boundary or covered reservoir that is considered a relatively recent man-made construct, or a relocation of approximately 100 metres or more in distance from either the position of a map spot height or from where the summit of the hill was previously thought to exist.

Therefore, the summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 323.6m and this is positioned at SN 98748 83949, this is relatively close to where the 323m spot height appeared, and is approximately 85 metres south-westward from where the high point of the raised field boundary is positioned. 

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Hirddywel 

Name:  Pt. 323.6m 

OS 1:50,000 map:  136

Summit Height:  323.6m (LIDAR)                                                           

Summit Grid Reference (New Position):  SN 98748 83949 (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Height:  284.3m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 98638 83494 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  39.3m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (December 2024)