Showing posts with label Cae Boncyn. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Cae Boncyn. Show all posts

Monday, 29 August 2016

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – 100m Twmpau


Cae Boncyn (SJ 238 193)

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the 100m Twmpau, and the following details are in respect of a hill that was surveyed with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 on the 8th August 2015.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

100m Twmpau - All Welsh hills at and above 100m and below 200m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward.

The hill is a part of the Carnedd Wen range, which is an extensive group of hills situated in the southern part of north Wales.  It is positioned between the small communities of Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain to the north-west, Llanymynech to the east north-east, Four Crosses to the east and Ardd-lin (Arddleen) to the south south-east.

The green field of Cae Boncyn (SJ 238 193) above Gelli Farm


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the summit of Cae Boncyn

The hill appeared in the 100m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website under an invented name of Bryn y Gelli, with an accompanying note stating; Name from farm to the South-West.  During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put PenBryn or Moel in front of them, and in this instance it was that of Gelli Farm.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with research either conducted locally or historically an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found.  



Bryn y Gelli
    142m
    SJ239194
    126
  240
    Name from farm to the South-West


When I visited this hill with Alex Cameron we asked permission to do so from Mel Jones, the owner of Gelli Farm, who was sitting outside the farm house enjoying the afternoon’s sunshine.  As we descended to the awaiting car which was parked in the farm yard I took the opportunity to ask Mel about the name of the hill and he said that he had something that might be of interest to us.  He then disappeared in to the farm house and re-appeared with a Field map of Gelli Farm, dated January 1924.

The Gelli Farm Field map, dated January 1924


The Gelli Farm Field map

The map outlined the property adjoined to Gelli Farm and named each individual field, for someone interested in upland place-name research it was like unearthing a treasure trove, and Mel explained that his father had passed the Field map down to him.  I asked about the high point of the hill above Gelli Farm and Mel knew what field it was situated in and told us that it is known as Cae Boncyn.

The Field map names each individual field

Although I scribbled down some of the information Mel gave me it was easier to take photos of the Field map which he kindly let me do, as well as giving me permission to reproduce them on this site.

Mel Jones with the Gelli Farm Field map

One would imagine that the details on the Tithe map would match those on Mel’s Field map of Gelli Farm; in the main they do not.  There may be a number of reasons for this, but the most likely is that the field names known at the time of the Tithe map compilation were in the main not passed down to following occupants of Gelli Farm and by the time of 1924 the occupant of Gelli Farm knew many of the individual fields by different names.

The name of the field that takes in the summit of this hill on the Tithe map is Little Bank Field.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales.

Accessing information on the Tithe map is simplified by the use of a split screen enabling the summit to be pinpointed on the map on the right and for the same point to appear on the Tithe map on the left

The enclosed land where the field named as Little Bank Field is situated is given the number 1155 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Little Bank Field on the Tithe map and described as Arable; it appears in the county named as Montgomery and in the parish of Llansanffrraid ym Mechain.  

The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Little Bank Field on the Tithe map

It is important when studying these apportionments to compare the number given on the Tithe map with the information given in the apportionments, as in this instance there are two adjacent fields given the number 1155, the westerly placed field is named Little Bank Field and the easterly placed field is named Bank by John Foulkes.

It is also interesting comparing the information on the earlier Tithe map with that on the 1924 Gelli Farm Field map, when doing so there are two fields whose names can be considered that match; Field under house on the Tithe map and Field below house on the Gelli Farm Field map, and The Maes on the Tithe map and Maes on the Gelli Farm Field map.  However, there is also an example where the same name is used but for different fields, this is; Sideland.  We can deduct from this that at least some of the names used when the Tithe map was compiled are still in use today, whilst many others have been supplanted by new names, including that of Cae Boncyn.  


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Carnedd Wen

Name:  Cae Boncyn

Previously Listed Name:  Bryn y Gelli 

Summit Height:  142.1m (converted to OSGM15)

OS 1:50,000 map:  126

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 23849 19306  

Drop:  44m




Myrddyn Phillips (August 2016)






Friday, 4 September 2015

Mapping Mountains – Summit Relocations – 100m Twmpau


Cae Boncyn (SJ 238 193) 

There has been a Summit Relocation initiated by a survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 to the listing of 100m Twmpau (thirty welsh metre prominences and upward), with the following details being retrospective as the survey that resulted in this summit relocation was conducted on 8th August 2015.

The survey was conducted in the lower hills of the Carnedd Wen range, centred between the small towns of Llansanffraid-ym-Mechain to the hill’s north-west, Llanymynech to the hill’s north-east and Four Crosses to the hill’s south-east, with all three communities being situated beside or close to the Afon Efyrnwy (River Vyrnwy).

The hill was surveyed in the company of Alex Cameron during a multi hill bagging day in lovely sunshine as we visited nine P30 Twmpau hills with seven of them being Trimbled.

The hill is unnamed on current Ordnance Survey maps, having been listed as Bryn y Gelli in the original P30 lists that appeared on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website.  This was an invented name partly taken from the farm which is situated just to the south-west of the summit.  However, when we visited the hill we asked Mel Jones at Gelli Farm for permission to do so and also made enquiries concerning the name of the hill, Mel produced a field map of Gelli Farm with the field where the summit of the hill is situated named as Cae Boncyn, unsurprisingly this is also the name that Mel gave us for the highest field.

Prior to the survey with the Trimble GeoXH 6000 the position of the summit was listed as that of its 142m spot height which is situated at SJ 23882 19312.  This spot height is positioned in an adjacent field to where the highest part of the hill is situated, the distance between these two positions is not great but a relocation of a summit to a different field is important and therefore this information warrants a post under the heading of Summit Relocations.

The position of the relocated summit is at SJ 23849 19306 and is the top of a small hillock, hence the Boncyn part of its name, this is not given a spot height on current Ordnance Survey maps but the survey result produced by the Trimble gave it as 142.1m (converted to OSGM15) and approximately 30-40 metres westward from the position of the spot height on Ordnance Survey maps.


The full details for the hill are:

Cardinal Hill:  Carnedd Wen

Summit Height:  142.1m (converted to OSGM15)

Name:  Cae Boncyn

OS 1:50,000 map:  126

Summit Grid Reference (New Position):  SJ 23849 19306
  
Drop:  44m


The Trimble GeoXH 6000 gathering data at the new summit position of Cae Boncyn, with the old position of the summit in the adjacent field beyond the wooden fence in the background of this photo

For details on the survey that relocated the summit of this hill please click {here}

Myrddyn Phillips (August 2015)







Thursday, 3 September 2015

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Carnedd Wen


08.08.15  Bryn Mawr (SJ 251 190), Cae Boncyn (SJ 238 193) and Old Oswestry (SJ 295 309)  

Bryn Mawr (SJ 251 190)

Our last three hills of the day started with the delights of Bryn Mawr which is another hill hidden away in the landscape of mid Wales that has an ancient hill fort constructed on it.  This is similar to the first hill we visited earlier in the day; Gaer Fawr Hill (SJ 223 129) as it is now submerged in trees and undergrowth, sometimes this adds to the appeal of such hills as there ancient landscape is hidden and their once proud nature is open to one’s imagination.

We parked to the west of the hill beside a gate that gave access to a covered reservoir, with Alex striding ahead on a freshly mown strip of grass that marched up next to thistle and long grass, this led to a locked gate and barbed wire, which Alex quickly dealt with, with the dexterity of a monkey, whist I crumbled in a heap and struggled Sloth like to its top and perched on a small fence post I then threw myself down to the comparative safety beyond – oh to be young again!

On the path leading to the covered reservoir

Ahead lay swaying grass and a summit swathed in summer growth with the high point beside a tree that had glimpses of the outside sunshine penetrating the canopy above. 

Heading for the summit

As I set the Trimble up on top of my rucksack Alex sat in a patch of sunshine whilst I sneaked away from the equipment and stood beside clumps of nettles and brambles and a multitude of undergrowth.  It was a long wait as the Trimble edged toward the 0.1m accuracy level and eventually I pressed ‘Log’ and waited for it to gather its five minutes of allotted data.

Gathering data at the summit of Bryn Mawr

Alex waiting patiently for the Trimble to do its stuff

My rucksack makes a good improvised tripod

Once the equipment was packed away we found an easier descent route on mown grass to a gate and then through a field which was adjacent to our ascent route, next stop; Gelli Farm and a visit to Cae Boncyn.

The green fields of Cae Boncyn (SJ 238 193)

To get to Gelli Farm Alex navigated us east to the B4393 and then west toward a minor road and a concrete track / road that gains height rapidly up to the farm.  When I parked the farmer was contentedly sunning himself on a reclined seat outside his front door.  I walked toward him, introduced myself and asked if we could visit the hill which was in view from the front of his farm.  He kindly said yes, and directed us to which gates to use and pointed to where the high point was, which was positioned just beyond a bricked construction which looked like a small water tower, I thanked him and re-joined Alex and away we went up the hill.

Heading toward the summit of Cae Boncyn

Alex led through the second gate and a couple of minutes later we were standing on the grassed summit which is to the west of the current position of the 142m spot height on Ordnance Survey maps and in the adjacent field to it.

Away to our south-east was Courthouse Bank (SJ 247 183) and its two distinctive summit ridge trees and beyond was the Breiddin with the quarried western side of the hill bathed in afternoon sunshine.

Looking across to the Breiddin

As the Trimble gathered its data I scribbled a number of notes which are given in the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet on the Spreadsheets heading of this blog, and Alex lazed in the sun admiring the view and happy in life.

Gathering data at the summit of Cae Boncyn

The Trimble on the summit and Alex flat out enjoying the sunshine

Once all the lazing and Trimbling had been completed we retraced our steps back down the hill to the car, before leaving I walked back to the farmer; Mel Jones, and thanked him once again for letting us visit the hill, I also asked if he knew of a name for it and indeed he did as he quickly said ‘we call it Cae Boncyn which is the name of the field’.  He then mentioned the ‘Rabbit Field’, the ‘Maes’ and the ‘Barracks’, all are individual bounded fields either on Mel’s land or adjacent to it.

As the conversation continued with Mel, he said ‘hang on a moment’ and disappeared in to his house and reappeared a couple of minutes later with a large back-boarded map of his farm.  This was made by his father and passed down to Mel and will, sometime in the future, be passed down to Mel’s sons.  On the map was each field with their name written against them, with the field where the 142m spot height is positioned on current maps being named the ‘Top Field’ and the field where the high point of the hill is situated and where the Trimble had been placed named as ‘Cae Boncyn.’

I asked Mel if I could take some photos of him with the map and we stood on his lawn, beside his farm with him proudly holding the map.  It was great meeting Mel and talking about his farm and the various names written on the map; if only every farmer had such a thing as then the preservation of locally known place-names would be made much easier.

Mel Jones with the Gelli Farm field map

The map has each individual field named with the high point of the hill named as Cae Boncyn

Only one hill remained and that was positioned across the border in deepest, darkest England on the outskirts of Oswestry.  The name of our last hill is Old Oswestry, to my knowledge the hill doesn’t appear in any hill list but we thought it stood an outside chance of becoming a new Tump.

Old Oswestry is positioned on the northern outskirts of the town that bears part of its name and can be easily accessed from a visitor car park to its west.  This gives immediate access to its impressive earthen ramparts and its upper section.  The area of this ancient hill fort is now in the guardianship of English Heritage and it was classified as a Scheduled Monument in 1997.

An artist's impression of Old Oswestry

Old Oswestry is one of the best preserved hill forts in the country and has five sets of ramparts enclosing a central area of 8.4 hectares.  As we walked up the path past these ramparts a number of people were sitting in the sun after having visited the site.  Nearing the top we found the central section with its high point being lazily guarded by a herd of cows that were contentedly munching on grass whilst the labours of the world passed them by.

Looking past one of the series of earthen ramparts onto summer activity below

We walked part of the upper rampart and then visited the central cow pasture where we picked the spot for Trimble placement and sat in the sun as it gathered its five minutes of data.  During this time a friendly cow visited us and slowly edged itself ever nearer, it was an inquisitive beast and I hoped its attention would be kept on Alex in preference to a sticky slurping lick of a brightly coloured Trimble that was positioned on the ground a few metres from it.

Making friends

Gathering data at the summit of Old Oswestry

Once the Trimble was safely packed away we headed back to the car and drove to Gobowen for Alex to catch the train back home.  It had been a great couple of days with Alex visiting Yr Allt yesterday and a good bagging day today, all that remained was to write a multitude of blog posts and process a multitude of data!

Alex catching the train back home

Survey Result:


Bryn Mawr

Summit Height:  178.1m (converted to OSGM15) (significant height revision)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 25117 19054

Drop:  90m (Subhump addition confirmed)

Dominance:  50.53% (Lesser Dominant reclassified to Dominant confirmed)





Summit Height:  142.1m (converted to OSGM15)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 23849 19306 (summit relocation confirmed)

Drop:  44m

Dominance:  30.97%




Old Oswestry

Summit Height:  165.1m (converted to OSGM15)

Summit Grid Reference:  SJ 29533 30990

Drop:  c 27m

Dominance:  16.35%




For further details please consult the Trimble survey spreadsheet click {here}