Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales

Banc (SN 701 949) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Banc (SN 701 949)

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales – Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13^th May 2017, and the Introduction to the Mapping Mountains publication of the list appearing on the 1^st January 2022. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Banc Llechwedd Mawr group of hills, which are situated in the northern part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with the A487 road to its north-west and a minor road to its south, and has the hamlet of Ffwrnais (Furnace) towards the west.

The hill appeared in the original 300m height bandof Welsh P30 hills published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, under the transposed name of Dynyn Hill, which is a prominent name that appears to the north-west of this hill on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map and does not necessarily apply to land taking in the summit of this hill.

Dynyn Hill

320c

SN702949

135

23

 

During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them or as in this instance transpose a prominent name that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map and presume it that of the hill.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historic documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

As the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales. 

Extract from the Tithe map

The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 292 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Banc in the apportionments, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the parish of Llanfihangel Genau’r Glyn and in the county named as Cardigan. 

Extract from the apportionments

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales is Banc and this was derived from the Tithe map. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Banc Llechwedd Mawr 

Name:  Banc 

Previously Listed Name:  Dynyn Hill 

OS 1:50,000 map:  135

Summit Height:  323.9m (LIDAR)                                                           

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 70180 94944 & SN 70183 94947 (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Height:  296.7m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 70375 95065 & SN 70378 95064 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  27.2m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (December 2022)

  

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – 200m Twmpau

 

Banc (SN 638 606) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the 200m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Banc (SN 638 606)

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

200m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 200m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

The 200m Twmpau by Myrddy Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Mynydd Bach group of hills, which are situated in the western part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with a minor road and the B4577 road to its north-west, a minor road and the B4576 road to its west, a minor road and the B4342 road to its south and the B4578 road to its east, and has the town of Tregaron towards the east.

The hill appeared in the original Welsh 200m P30 list on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, under the invented and transposed name of Pen y Pentre-Padarn, with an accompanying note stating: Name from buildings to the South-East.

Pen y Pentre-Padarn

247m

SN636603

146

199

Trig pillar. Name from buildings to the South-East.

                                                                                    

During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them or as in this instance transpose the name of a farm and put the words Pen y in front of it.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historic documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

As the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales. 

Extract from the Tithe map

The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 164 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Banc in the apportionments, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the parish of Llanbadarn Odwyn and in the county named as Cardiganhire. 

Extract from the apportionments

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the 200m Twmpau is Banc, and this was derived from the Tithe map. 

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Mynydd Bach

Name:  Banc

Previously Listed Name:  Pen y Pentre-Padarn   

OS 1:50,000 map:  146

Summit Height:  247.5m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 63875 60609 (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Height:  184.8m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 65417 60139 & SN 65423 60135 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  62.6m (LIDAR)

 

Myrddyn Phillips (October 2022)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mapping Mountains – Summit Relocations – 200m Twmpau

Banc (SN 638 606) 

There has been a Summit Relocation to a hill that is listed in the 200m Twmpau, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Banc (SN 638 606)

The criteria for the list that this summit relocation applies to are:

200m Twmpau – Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the 200m Sub-Twmpau, with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 200m and below 300m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop, with the word Twmpau being an acronym standing for thirty welsh metre prominences and upward. 

The 200m Twmpau by Myrddyn Phillips

The name the hill is listed by is Banc and this was derived from the Tithe map, and it is adjoined to the Mynydd Bach group of hills, which are situated in the western part of South Wales (Region B, Sub-Region B1), and it is positioned with a minor road and the B4577 road to its north-west, a minor road and the B4576 road to its west, a minor road and the B4342 road to its south and the B4578 road to its east, and has the town of Tregaron towards the east.

When the original 200m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was listed with a summit height of 247m based on the spot height adjoined to a triangulation pillar that appears on the Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer map and which is positioned at SN 636 602. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

However, it was not until LIDAR became available that the details for this hill could be accurately re-assessed.  The LIDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) technique produced highly accurate height data that is now freely available for much of England and Wales. 

LIDAR summit image of Banc (SN 638 606)

The height produced by LIDAR analysis to the summit of this hill is 247.5m positioned at SN 63875 60609, and this position in relation to that of the triangulation pillar comes within the parameters of the Summit Relocations used within this page heading, these parameters are:

The term Summit Relocations applies to when the high point is positioned in a different field, to a different feature such as a conifer plantation, within a different map contour, a different point where a number of potential summit positions are within close proximity, when natural ground or the natural and intact summit is confirmed compared to a higher point such as a raised field boundary or covered reservoir that is considered a relatively recent man-made construct, or a relocation of approximately 100 metres or more in distance from either the position of a map spot height or from where the summit of the hill was previously thought to exist.

Therefore, the summit height produced by LIDAR analysis is 247.5m which is positioned at SN 63875 60609, this position is not given a spot height on the contemporary Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 Landranger and 1:25,000 Explorer map, and is approximately 400 metres north-eastward from where the previously listed summit is positioned. 

 

The full details for the hill are:

Group:  Mynydd Bach 

Name:  Banc 

OS 1:50,000 map:  146

Summit Height:  247.5m (LIDAR) 

Summit Grid Reference (New Position):  SN 63875 60609 (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Height:  184.8m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 65417 60139 & SN 65423 60135 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  62.6m (LIDAR)

 

Myrddyn Phillips (October 2022)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales

Banc (SN 713 617) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

LIDAR image of Banc (SN 713 617)

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are: 

Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales.  Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13^th May 2017. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Elenydd group of hills, which are situated in the central part of the Mid and West Wales Region (Region B, Sub-Region B2), and it is positioned with the B4343 road to its north-west and a minor road to its south, and has the town of Tregaron towards the west south-west. 

When the original 300m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website, this hill was listed under the invented and transposed name of Banc Blaenaucaron, with an accompanying note stating; Name from buildings to the West.

Banc Blaenaucaron

331m

SN714617

146/147

187

Name from buildings to the West

 

During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them or as in this instance transpose the name of a farm and prefix it with the word Banc.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historic documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

As the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales. 

Extract from the Tithe map

The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 915 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Banc, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the parish of Caron and in the county named as Cardigan. 

Extract from the apportionments

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales is Banc and this was derived from the Tithe map. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Elenydd 

Name:  Banc 

Previously Listed Name:  Banc Blaenaucaron 

OS 1:50,000 map:  146, 147

Summit Height:  330.0m (LIDAR)                                                           

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 71394 61747 (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Height:  302.2m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 71860 61901 & SN 71861 61904 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  27.7m (LIDAR) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (December 2021)

 

 

 

 

 

  

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales

Banc (SN 723 729) 

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales, with the summit height, bwlch height and their locations, the drop and status of the hill derived from LIDAR analysis and a subsequent Trimble GeoXH 6000 survey conducted by Myrddyn Phillips. 

Banc (SN 723 729)

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are: 

Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales.  Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height that have 30m minimum drop, with an accompanying sub list entitled the Sub-Trichant with the criteria for this sub category being all Welsh hills at or above 300m and below 400m in height with 20m or more and below 30m of drop.  The list is authored by Myrddyn Phillips, with the Introduction to the list and the renaming of it appearing on Mapping Mountains on the 13^th May 2017. 

Y Trichant - The 300m Hills of Wales by Myrddyn Phillips

The hill is adjoined to the Elenydd group of hills, which are situated in the central part of the Mid and West Wales Region (Region B, Sub-Region B2), and is positioned with minor roads to its north-east, north-west and south, and has the B4343 road farther to its east, and the village of Pont-rhyd-y-groes towards the east south-east. 

When the original 300m height band of Welsh P30 hills were published on Geoff Crowder’s v-g.me website this hill was listed under the transposed name of Pengrogwynion, with an accompanying note stating; Name from buildings to the South.

Pengrogwynion

316m

SN723730

135/147

213

Name from buildings to the South

 

During my early hill listing I thought it appropriate to either invent a name for a hill, or use a name that appeared near to the summit of the hill on Ordnance Survey maps of the day.  My preference was to use farm names and put Pen, Bryn or Moel in front of them or as in this instance transpose the name of a farm and use it for that of the hill.  This is not a practice that I now advocate as with time and inclination place-name data can be improved either by asking local people or by examining historic documents, through this form of research an appropriate name for the hill can usually be found. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

As the summit of this hill comprises bounded land the details for it were examined on the Tithe map.  The term Tithe map is generally given to a map of a Welsh or English parish or township and which was prepared after the 1836 Tithe Commutation Act.  This act allowed tithes to be paid in cash rather than goods.  The Tithe maps gave names of owners and occupiers of land in each parish and importantly for place-name research they also included the name of enclosed land.  This enclosed land is usually based on a field system, however not every field is given a name, but many are and especially so in Wales. 

Extract from the Tithe map

The enclosed land where the summit of this hill is situated is given the number 17 on the Tithe map, this can be cross referenced against the apportionments; it is these apportionments that give the name of the owner or occupier of the land as well as the name of the land.  The land where the summit of this hill is situated is named as Banc, with the details on the Tithe map appearing in the parish of Llanafan and in the county named as Cardigan. 

Extract from the apportionments

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in the Y Trichant – The 300m Hills of Wales is Banc and this was derived from the Tithe map. 

 

The full details for the hill are: 

Group:  Elenydd 

Name:  Banc 

Previously Listed Name:  Pengrogwynion 

OS 1:50,000 map:  135, 147

Summit Height:  316.3m (converted to OSGM15, Trimble GeoXH 6000)                                                           

Summit Grid Reference:  SN 72380 72987 (Trimble GeoXH 6000) 

Bwlch Height:  285.1m (LIDAR) 

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SN 72097 73104 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  31.2m (Trimble GeoXH 6000 summit and LIDAR bwlch) 

 

Myrddyn Phillips (September 2021)