Tuesday, 19 June 2018

Mapping Mountains – Significant Name Changes – The Fours


Pt. 428m (NY 300 017)

There has been a Significant Name Change to a hill that is listed in The Fours, with this being announced when the 2nd edition of The Fours was published by Mapping Mountains Publications on the 24th April 2018.

The criteria for the list that this name change applies to are:

The Fours – English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 30m minimum drop.  Accompanying the main list of The Fours are three categories of sub hills, with this hill listed as a 400m Sub-Four.  The criteria for 400m Sub-Four status are all English hills at and above 400m and below 500m in height that have 20m or more and below 30m of drop.

The list is co-authored by Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams, with the 1st edition of the list having been published by Europeaklist in December 2013 and by Haroldstreet in January 2014, with the 2nd edition of the list published by Mapping Mountains Publications and by Haroldstreet on the 24th April 2018.

The hill is situated in the Sothern Fells of the Lake District and is placed in Region 34, Section 34D with its Cardinal Hill being The Old Man of Coniston (SD 272 978).  The hill is positioned between the steam valleys of the Greenburn Beck to the north-west and the Pierce How Beck and the Yewdale Beck towards the south-east, and has the small community of Little Langdale towards the north-east.

When the listing that is now known as The Fours was originally compiled this hill was not included as it did not meet the criteria then used, however this list has now been standardised and interpolated height and drop values also added, it was subsequently listed under the name of High Fell in the 1st edition of The Fours when the list was published by Europeaklist in December 2013. 

Prior to publication of the 2nd edition of The Fours enquiries were made with two well-known Lake District guide book authors, resulting in a non-committal reply in regard to the name of High Fell, and the advice that ‘one would need to talk to genuine locals and shepherds to give definitive answers’. 

Extract from the Ordnance Survey series of Six-Inch maps

Extract from the Ordnance Survey 1:25,000 Explorer map

Therefore, the name this hill is now listed by in The Fours is Pt. 428m and this follows the standard practice of using the point notation for hill’s whose name has not been substantiated by the authors either through local enquiry, contemporary maps or from historical documentation. 


The full details for the hill are:

Group:  The Old Man of Coniston

Name:  Pt. 428m

Previously Listed Name:  High Fell 

Summit Height:  428m

OS 1:50,000 map:  90

Summit Grid Reference:  NY 30023 01704 
 
Drop:  c 20m


Myrddyn Phillips and Aled Williams (June 2018)






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