Sunday, 24 August 2025

Mapping Mountains – Trimble Surveys – Garn Fawr


17.06.25  Carn Llidi (SM 737 280) 

Carn Llidi (SM 737 280)

Carn Llidi is rock strewn in its higher reaches and protected from any off-path ascent by copious amounts of tough undergrowth.  The hill is positioned north-west of Tyddewi (St David’s) which purports to be the smallest city in the British Isles.  It looks out over a jagged coastline which the Pembrokeshire Coast Path follows.  Although the hills hereabouts are good, it is the coastal path that is the highlight. 

Pentre Ifan

We were based at Caerfai for a few days, which is just to the south and easy walking distance from Tyddewi.  On our way to Caerfai we visited Pentre Ifan, which is one of Wales’ most impressive ancient burial sites with its upper monolith delicately balanced. 

Inside the chapel at St Non's

The coastal path was next to where we stayed; we walked to Solfach (Solva) and bussed it back to the city and on another day headed to the delights of St Non’s; a Catholic retreat beside the coast path. 

The cathedral at Tyddewi

Whilst at Tyddewi the first Welsh Bible was transferred to the cathedral.  It was translated by Bishop William Morgan and published in 1588.  It had never been on public display and along with the first Bible published in Irish was now at the cathedral.  Whilst visiting to see this Bible I stood and listened to four elderly ladies talking amongst themselves in Welsh, whilst pointing at the book housed in its display cabinet.  I found this scene rather emotional as this book played a crucial role in preserving the Welsh language and over 430 years later this small group of neatly dressed women were a testament to the importance of this book and the strength of the language. 

The first Welsh Bible

As well as hills, coastal walks and the cathedral, the land surrounding Twddewi also looks west to a series of islands dominated by Ynys Dewi (Ramsey), which I had visited and surveyed its three P30 hills in May 2016.  However, there are many more islands scattered beyond Ynys Dewi with the main grouping being Emsger, Carreg Rhoson and North Bishop.  And when at Caerfai we took two boat trips; the first around Ynys Dewi and the second a magical evening trip to North Bishop. 

On the coastal path

However stunningly beautiful the coastal path and islands are, and however interesting and historically significant the cathedral is, we also needed a hill to visit.  The one that looked the most impressive was Carn Llidi.  I contemplated bringing the Trimble to survey its summit, but the prospect of carrying the equipment for six days with only one hill to visit was not appealing and therefore the Trimble remained at home and LIDAR would have to suffice for the numerical details of this hill. 

The highest of the chain of islands known as North Bishop

We parked on a grass verge on the B4583 road at it descends to its end at Whitesands beach.  This gave opportunity for a circular walk with only the uphill section back on the narrow paved road at the end of the walk as a repeat. 

Beside the narrow road leading down to Whitesands

Setting off the weather was again lovely; with crisp blue sky heralding what we hoped would be another glorious day.  However, weather hereabouts was proving fickle.  Each evening I watched from the elevation of Caerfai as thin cloud banks quickly rolled landward and then quickly dissipated as the sun cast out again, only for another cloud bank to follow.

Our route took us down to the beach, where we were confronted by a multitude of school children, all donned out in wet suits with their paddle boards aimed at the sea.  It was good to walk on the beach, somewhere we would revisit for an afternoon during a particularly warm spell of weather later in the week.  Our walk this time on its sands was only short as we headed north and soon joined the coastal path. 

Suzanne on the coastal path leading north from Whitesands

This section was like others we had visited with dramatic plummeting views downward to rocky coves, sandy beaches and towering sea stacks, and all experienced with the sea a constant blue and today the sky casting radiant.  It was indeed a good day to be out, but that weather hereabouts is a fickle beast. 

The view back toward Whitesands

We were looking for a path on our right leaving the main coastal path and which, hopefully, would take us toward our hill.  Thankfully we found it as the prospect of walking through the tough undergrowth away from any path is not recommended.

The path swung up gaining ground and always heading toward the western end of the Carn Llidi summit ridge.  As with many similar hills leaving the path can course calamitous results of floundering in copious amounts of evil undergrowth.  Therefore, I thought it prudent to ask one or two fellow walkers who were heading down in the opposite direction, whether and where the path continued.  We were met with conflicting advice, some encouraged going back down to another path and others seemed to discourage anything to do with venturing high on the hill.  I found this advice rather unusual, thanked them and off we went forever upward. 

Murky conditions starting to set in over Ynys Dewi

The path eventually swung up on to a concreted section leading to the summit of Carn Llidi Bychan; an outlier of the main peak and the farthest extension of the rocky western end of the summit ridge.  As height was gained we looked out toward Ynys Dewi, which was now being overtaken by one of those fickle weather conditions with grey murk approaching.

Ancient burial chamber beside the path on the way to Carn Llidi

The initial continuation toward the main peak was easy enough, with a variety of narrow paths leading toward the upthrust of the summit cone.  As we reached where path butted against rock, Suzanne decided that was far enough for her and found a sheltered spot away from the increasing strength of the wind, to wait until I visited the summit and hopefully descended safely back to where she was now happily sitting and admiring the view northward. 

Approaching the summit cone of Carn Llidi

When approaching Carn Llidi from the west its highest point requires hands on rock to reach its summit.  I used to hunt out any scramble and have many fond memories of weekends spent in Nant Peris, evenings in the Vaynol Arms, breakfasts in Pete’s Eats and late mornings and afternoons venturing on to Eryri peaks via scrambling on rocky ridges.  This at that point of my life was the norm.  I found it highly enjoyable and considered myself competent enough to know when to back off from something that looked beyond my limit.  However, age and scrambling not being the norm can quickly lead to lack of confidence on rock, and this was only confounded when in October 2023 I slipped and fell from a rocky ridge close to Moel Hebog.  Falling on the opposite side of the ridge would probably have resulted in death.  I was fortunate to walk away with just a large bruise on my upper thigh and a few scratches.  This experience dampened any confidence I had left when confronted with hands on rock and those scrambles that in my younger days were the norm.  Today was the first time I had encountered rock since the day I had fallen.  This all sounds rather melodramatic, but it is as it is and it feels good to write about such things and be as honest as I can.

Before venturing up the rock I took my rucksack off and left it at the base of the summit cone and safely zipped my camera in its case.  The way up was obvious as the rock was discoloured through many peoples visits over the years, it involved two sections of scrambling before reaching the high point, the first up a diagonal wide groove and the second a metre or two traverse to the left and then up a few steps to where the summit opened up.  By the time I reached the top it was definitely windy, not so much to be dangerous but enough that I was thankful I had decided not to bring the Trimble.

The view north-eastward up the coast from the summit of Carn Llidi

Reversing my upward route was relatively easy, as with most things of a similar nature, taking ones time is essential.  Soon I was back at my rucksack and shortly afterward sitting beside Suzanne tucking in to some yummy morsel of food.  As we gathered our stuff to head down we felt the first drop of rain that was being pushed landward beyond the grey sky murk that we had seen over Ynys Dewi on the latter part of our ascent.

Our route down was easy, reversing the summit ridge to Carn Llidi Bychan and the narrow concrete path leading down to the main path, here we continued down toward the road, instead of swinging rightward and rejoining the coastal path.  This soon brought us out on to the road and that nasty little bit of uphill at the end of the walk, never the best at the end of any walk. 

Relaxing in the car with our picnic with the cloud base now enveloping Carn Llidi

During our descent the weather continued to close in, with those succulent blue skies of earlier now replaced by greying murk with intermittent spells of light coastal drizzle being brought in on the wind.  The rain was never heavy enough for me to put waterproofs on and we arrived back at the car still dry from our endeavours.  All that remained was a quick change whilst the kettle was boiling and to have a feast of a picnic sitting in comfort looking out of the car window as the whole upper ridge of Carn Llidi disappeared under grey murk. 

 

Survey Result: 

 

Carn Llidi 

Summit Height:  182.1m (LIDAR)  

Summit Grid Reference:  SM 73797 28001 (LIDAR)

Bwlch Height:  57.8m (LIDAR)

Bwlch Grid Reference:  SM 76096 28625 & SM 76132 28642 (LIDAR) 

Drop:  124.3m (LIDAR)

Dominance:  68.27% (LIDAR)

 

 

For further details please consult the Trimble Survey Spreadsheet 

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